<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Everybody’s suggestions are all worthwhile and should be considered.  Just because it’s a Fazioli does not mean that it doesn’t have hard trichord felt.  It certainly wouldn’t be the first new piano with hard felt – I replaced the trichord felts on a less than a year old Steinway B a few years ago under warranty because they were noisy.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And you say “slow release of the key”.  I’m not trying to blame the player here, but I think if you release the key slowly enough, just about any piano will “ zzzzup”.  I would have the player play the note and release in the manner which he normally plays and gets this noise.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It doesn’t hurt to state the obvious sometimes too.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Will Truitt<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:28 AM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Noisy Dampers on Shift<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> That's a good check to do.  You also might see that the back of the damper lifts oooo so slightly before the front.  If they're absolutely flat, they may have a tendency to produce that "zing" sound on slow release of the key. Let us know how you fixed it! Paul <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td width="40%" valign=top style='width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> paulrevenkojones@aol.com Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org <o:p></o:p> 07/16/2008 01:33 AM <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='background:white;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td width="59%" valign=top style='width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> To<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> tcole@cruzio.com, pianotech@ptg.org <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> cc<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Subject<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Re: Noisy Dampers on Shift<o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <o:p> </o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> Tom: You might take a look at the trichord felt length (how far down through the strings they protrude). You can trim that felt, and compress it, but then need to re-time the damper since it will sit just a bit lower. Paul. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Cole <tcole@cruzio.com> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:54 pm Subject: Noisy Dampers on Shift I just acquired a client who bought a new F183 Fazioli. Obviously it's a very nice piano, but the owner is complaining of improper damper function on several notes starting above C4, especially on shift. The hammers all shift off of the first string in Faziolis so I can see that there might be some phase shift between the strings of each unison challenging the dampers, but he's only complaining about a handful of notes in the fourth octave. The fact that the owner is formerly a synth player is likely why this effect was so noticeable to him, but I must admit the buzzy cutoff on a slow release of the key is not at all subtle. Even the dealer over the phone could hear it. So far, the trichord wedges are exerting equal pressure on the strings (plucking doesn't reveal any leaks or uneven damping) and the dampers follow when pressing on the strings. The technician who prepped the piano didn't notice a problem but who checks damper function on shift? Anyone care to take a shot at it? Tom Cole <o:p></o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. <a href="http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014" target="_blank">Get the TMZ Toolbar Now</a>! <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>