<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:01 PM, joel a. jones <<a href="mailto:jajones2@wisc.edu">jajones2@wisc.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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The mention of using 4ths and 5ths all the way down the bass caught my<br>
attention. I also find those intervals useful all the way down the bass in some<br>
pianos . </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes ... since the 6:3 and other partial coincidences <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">are</span> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">hard</span></span> to hear down there, the 4th and 5th do come in quite handy as a quick test to see if you're wide or narrow.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Another quick test I use is adding the 5th and octave all the way down<br>
and adding the triple octave on top. Try to make this chord sound as beatless as possible.<br>
I would classify these test as 'musical' and not necessarily 'technical'. As others<br>
have said use what interval gets the best sounding results.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'll have to try this.</div><div><br></div><div>I also think the "musical" tests have much merit. If it doesn't sound good, then it doesn't matter just where the coincidences are, right? :-) One of David Anderson's tips helped me not too long ago. He said something like "come up from below" when you're tuning bass octaves. When you have the octave right, it will sound right too. Naturally, that is a learned experience. And it can be helpful to learn to hear the coincidences. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Perhaps if we spent a little bit more time listening to the overall sound rather than picking apart coincidences, we would probably spend less time testing. After all, the goal is musicality, not how many ways we can prove the width of a particular octave. I'm speaking to my own self as well as anyone else, mind you.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Heck, I'm just glad there's still interest in aural tuning here on Pianotech. Five respondents in 23 hours ... not too shabby. <G></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>JF
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