<div>I resumed my practice, but this time I am concentrating on not bringing the F45 as sharp.  It seems to have helped, a lot.</div> <div> </div> <div>The problem was that when I lowered the F45, and I did my 3rd/10th test, the 10th was beating slower than the 3rd, so then I raised the F45 to match the 3rd test, but then when I did my F-A, A-C#, C#-F, F-A progression, the C#-F was beating was too fast.  I think the problem was finding the fine line between tuning the F45 so it gives a pure octave that it fits in the 3rd/10th test, and making sure the C#-F third is acceptable.</div> <div> </div> <div>But like I said, this piano is horrible to tune, which is why I chose it.  I believe I am getting some head way though.  I finished tuning the temperament and it sounds a lot better!  There are still some issues to iron out with it, but, that is why I have friends like you.</div> <div> </div> <div>Yes, I am an associate member.  I am going to try my hardest to complete the tuning exam before the end of the year....before the rates double!</div> <div> </div> <div>Thank you!</div> <div>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>paulrevenkojones@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don:<BR><BR>I agree that the exam list serve would be an excellent place for this question, but I think that this is also an excellent place for this question. I'm quite interested in what folks might have to say to Matthew to help him figure out his dilemma. It's as worthwhile a technical topic as any.<BR><BR>And Matthew, perhaps if you can get a grasp of beat speeds from approximately 7 for F3-A, 9 for A-C#, and 11 for C#-F4, this would help. Balancing them is the trick. <BR><BR>Paul<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca><BR>To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:23 am<BR>Subject: Re: Tuning Help<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_30dec819-3bc4-46cc-87fd-704c1b6b589b style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>Hi Mathew,<BR> <BR> Your progression of beats from f3:a3 and a3:c#4 must be wrong if the c#4:f4<BR> is too fast.<BR> <BR> Have you joined the PTG yet? The examination listserv would be a better<BR> place for this question.<BR> <BR> At 06:56 AM 7/22/2008 -0700, you wrote:<BR> >And then for my test I would play in<BR> >order F-A, A-C#, C#-F and F-A with a smooth progression of beats. <BR> >gets way too fast. I realize I may need to go back a few steps to<BR> >really check what I did previously, but your guidance will be very valuable<BR> >right now. Thank you, Matthew<BR> Regards,<BR> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.<BR> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat<BR> <BR> <A href="mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com?">mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com</A> <A href="http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/" target=_blank>http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/</A><BR> <BR> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7<BR> 306-539-0716 or 1-888-29t-uner<BR> </TT></PRE></DIV> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=u8CABA1EB95268FF-91C-117C><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. <A title=http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014 href="http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014" target=_blank>Get the TMZ Toolbar Now</A>!</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>