<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Great information Dale, and really sorry I missed your seminar. And now out of the blue here's this '87 grand and someone just gave me a 1868 upright in very nice original condition.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=erwinspiano@aol.com href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:03 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Value of old S&S B</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">   Dear grass hopper<BR>   The B I took to convention is a 1928 souped up hybrid board hot rod in satin mahogany with original ivory & keysticks. The  ideas incorporated were not mine but I put em to good use anyway. <BR> This was not trashed but all original from the dry state of Arizona. It received many of the usual custom restoration processes discussed here....& wont' bore you with the details. I'm asking about what  new B's sell for. (doesn't mean I'll get it) but folks really liked it at convention. Laroy Edwards was here for the Seminar Sat & I was proud when he seriously said it's the finest B he's ever heard. <BR>  All that to say...<BR>  I find that pianos too far under the 1890 barrier & the 85 notes deal is a downer to the retail price & personally I don't speculate on these. There are B bridges of different scales produced during this evolutionary time. Possibly for use with the two types of wire in use at the time. One hard & one softer. For dIfferent sonorities perhaps...Check the tensions.  Also Professional musicians don't prefer them. So make that the finest 85 note B anybodies heard & I would guess it's worth 55 to 60K. Hey, as Trix is fond of saying "Something is worth what someone will pay for a thing...be it a house...ughh. a prius or an suv.<BR>   That said I find Eds rule to be close.  I like Ed's advice of a $1,000 a foot. hmmm So <STRONG><EM><U>Foot rule</U></EM></STRONG>.<STRONG><U>s</U></STRONG>  Nice Ed !<BR>  Dale</FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_5a8c74f5-239a-4b69-9986-e20b99b32147> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yea Dale,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rub it in. Grasshopper say " It does not say B. It is 6'10" sn 62xxx ( a little earlier that what I posted before ) Modern action. I'm getting lots of great as is values, now I'd like to know what Dale Erwin would sell this for completely remanufactured."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How'd the seminar go, I was playing Hammond B3 with a choir on some kickin' gospel music or I'd of made it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Grasshopper</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=erwinspiano@aol.com href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:38 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Value of old S&S B</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Fenton<BR><BR>Well see if you'd a come to the early Steinway Seminar Sat you'd be all proffesionalized about such things. Is it bent rim? Does it actually say B? If I recall correctly Bill said the first Bs were built in 1878. But also called by there style  ie 1 ..2...3..4<BR>  Dale<BR></FONT><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Fenton Murray <<A href="mailto:fmurray@cruzio.com">fmurray@cruzio.com</A>><BR>To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46 am<BR>Subject: Value of old S&S B<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_bdab511b-d3b8-4612-88d3-24b06db64a1a style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear list, <BR>I'm looking at an old 6'10" Steinway s/n 68xxx, 85 note with intact ivory, original finish was ebony now ugly antique white with all original case parts in reasonable condition. Piano is basically a rebuildable shell needing a board along with everything else but it is playable and usable as is. <BR>In trying to advise my client I would like to give them some idea as to it's as is value and potental completely restored value. <BR>Help, please, <BR>Fenton  <BR></DIV> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=u8CAC5632743F6CF-6A8-4BB5><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that make the grade on <A title=http://shopping.aol.com/back-to-school?ncid=aolins00050000000007 href="http://shopping.aol.com/back-to-school?ncid=aolins00050000000007" target=_blank>AOL Shopping</A>.</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=u8CAC5907A27D8A0-B78-CB7><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> It's time to go back to school! 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