<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=FR link=blue vlink=blue style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=Section1> This could be it ! I’ll ask Mr Williams.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’ve search for the word « Boudoir » in the dictionnary and it is the same word is french and english but ther’s no explanation.<o:p></o:p> Thoes it come from the verbe bouder which means to sulk ? (to sulk when the tuning pins get to loose)<o:p></o:p> Or it coud be a piano specially made for a room called boudoir ?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> My english is not verry rich so just thoughts.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <st1:PersonName ProductID="Pierre Gevaert" w:st="on">Pierre Gevaert</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] De la part de John Ross Envoyé : jeudi 7 août 2008 0:14 À : <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Objet : Re: Broadwood wat about?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Perhaps it is a play on the word 'boudoir'?<o:p></o:p> <div> <div> On 6-Aug-08, at 7:07 PM, <st1:PersonName ProductID="Gevaert Pierre" w:st="on">Gevaert Pierre</st1:PersonName> wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p></o:p> <span style='orphans: 2;text-align:auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0;word-spacing:0px'><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <div link=blue vlink=blue> <div> <div> I don’t know, I think the guy must be dead right now (otherways I would have ask him) but I love some of the old Broadwoods. They are realy beatifull and fine pianos. Beethoven owned one and I think it  was his prefered piano above an Erard and a Streicher (Vienese) .<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Pierre<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> <div> De : <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] De la part <st1:personname productid="de Paul" u2:st="on">de Paul</st1:personname> T Williams Envoyé : mercredi 6 août 2008 23:18 À : <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> Objet : RE: Broadwood wat about?<o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Well, at least he loves you!!!  I don't get it either.  Love, pw  I don't know enough about older period instruments to be of help !  Sorry...  <o:p></o:p> </div> <u1:p></u1:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;z-index:auto'> <tr> <td width="40%" valign=top style='width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> "<st1:personname productid="Gevaert Pierre" u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName ProductID="Gevaert Pierre" w:st="on">Gevaert Pierre</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>" <<a href="mailto:pierre.gevaert@belgacom.net">pierre.gevaert@belgacom.net</a>>  Sent by: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> 08/06/2008 04:12 PM<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top bgcolor=white style='background:white;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt; background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment: initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial; background-position:initial initial'> Please respond to <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <u1:p></u1:p> </table> <u1:p></u1:p> <o:p></o:p> </td> <td width="59%" valign=top style='width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> To<o:p></o:p> </td> <u1:p></u1:p> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> "'<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>'" <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> cc<o:p></o:p> </td> <u1:p></u1:p> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Subject<o:p></o:p> </td> <u1:p></u1:p> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> RE: Broadwood wat about?<o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> </td> </tr> </table> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> </td> </tr> </table> <u1:p></u1:p> <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <div> At least one reply to my post  but I don’t understand what this has to do with Broadwood tuning pins ? Am I missing something ?  Otherways I still think this would be an interesting subject..     Cheers,     <st1:PersonName ProductID="Pierre Gevaert" w:st="on"><st1:personname productid="Pierre Gevaert" u2:st="on">Pierre Gevaert</st1:PersonName></st1:personname>   <o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> <div> De : <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] De la part de Kenny Finlayson Envoyé : mardi 5 août 2008 4:32 À : <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> Objet : Re: Broadwood broken tuning pin     I love you too.  ----- Original Message -----  From: <a href="mailto:pierre.gevaert@belgacom.net">Gevaert Pierre</a>  To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</a>  Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:59 AM  Subject: RE: Broadwood broken tuning pin     Hi,     The Boudoir grands I know about have the (square)pins screwed for about 2/3 into the iron plate and 1/3 into wood.  I tuned several and some stayed in tune quite well (afther more than 130 years !)  Others had the pins to loose. I don’t know if it is possible to find such tuning pins nor if it these would hold better.  There is some explanation on the lest front side of the soundboard near the basstrings but I think this is only to explain how to change a string.  I’m also interested to know how to make this kind of pins tight again.     Like some use ca glue for wooden pinblocks would it be possible to use a kind of product like Locktite for metal threads ?  This is used for making the threads tighter and exists in several strenghts.  Of course this may sound stange for using this kind of stuff for historical pianos but I can’t see another way exept maybe make threaded pins that are a little bigger or maybe a better choise to change the wooden part of the block (beech)so that at least the pins get some new grip there.     In this way it would be possible to clean and reuse the original pins.  There are many of those Boudoir grands remaining today so I would eventually be possible to find another similar instrument for using spare parts.    <st1:PersonName ProductID="Pierre Gevaert" w:st="on"><st1:personname productid="Pierre Gevaert" u2:st="on">Pierre Gevaert</st1:PersonName></st1:personname>     -----Message d'origine----- De : <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] De la part de John Delacour Envoyé : dimanche 3 août 2008 19:58 À : <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> Objet : Re: Broadwood broken tuning pin     At 15:28 +0200 3/8/08, stephan van meirhaeghe wrote:     >Hi list,  >  >I'm now restoring a Broadwood grand 'Boudoir' and had to remove all  >the tuning pins because to rusty and not possible to tune...  >Anywone had similar problems?And where can I find similar pins?Or do  >I need make new ones?     Are you talking of the threaded pins that screw into an iron plate?  If so, send a photo.  I can't help you but I'll be doing some work  with a colleague soon who may have some.     JD     No virus found in this incoming message.  Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">http://www.avg.com</a>  Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 1:00 PM<o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> </div> </div> </div> </u1:smarttagtype> <o:p> </o:p> <div><span style='orphans: 2;text-align:auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0;word-spacing:0px'><span style='orphans: 2;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'> <div style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div> John Ross<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>