<div>I agree with all comments here!</div> <div> </div> <div>I had a lady (not nearly as old as your examples) who called me back saying several octaves in the bass did not match.  I got there, wiggled the pins, said "does that sound better?" as I was doing it, she said "yes it does!", and viola!  The pitch was in the exact same place when I was thru!  I just raised the pitch, and lowered it back to where it was, done!</div> <div> </div> <div>But, the key was I had her agree with me on the spot that it sounded better.</div> <div> </div> <div><BR>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Will Truitt <surfdog@metrocast.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE>  </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">To our poor suffering brother Terry, Ron, and others (including me) who have known this terrible fate.  Might I add a small tale of my own that may shed some light?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I have a customer in her early 80’s whose Knabe grand action I rebuilt about 3 years ago.  When I go to tune the piano (which I do every six months), she is always asking me to voice down the treble.  She says the middle and the bass are just fine, but (and she’ll go over the piano, bang some notes “Hear that, it’s way too bright, it’s awful”).  Well, I’ve voiced the dickens out of top 3 octaves of that piano, it’s like milquetoast to my ears.  The rest of the piano is much brighter, and I’ve voiced this piano enough to feel like I’ve taken too much away;  BUT it’s still too bright to her.  She’s a really sweet lady, and her hearing is not perfect but certainly not at the 120 db TV level yet.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We’ve been doing this for a while.  She still likes me and I like her.  But I am thinking to myself, what’s going on here?  So I approached Laura, who is an audiologist and a good friend (we have been teaching skiing at the same mountain in New Hampshire for a number of years) and asked her what might be going on with my customer’s hearing.  She explained to me that there is a condition that some older people can develop where they develop a hypersensitivity to higher frequencies that actually can cause them discomfort when hearing those higher frequencies.   She told me the name of the condition but I have forgotten it since it was last winter when I asked her (sorry).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The person isn’t really aware that they have this condition – they are aware of the symptoms, which cause them discomfort.  Which, of course, makes it hard for them to understand why you are having such a blasé reaction to all this, when (to their mind) it’s so obvious that any fool can hear it.  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Basically, it’s a situation you cannot win.  She doesn’t want to hear “It’s you, Lady!”  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">So, yeh Terry, you got it right.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Smile, wiggle a few tuning pins, and say: "Oh, yeah, that should sound better now...?"</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Will<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Farrell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2008 1:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Customer Complaint on Tuning<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div></DIV></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Oh boy. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Should have just erased the message and not called..... </SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Lady leaves message on my answering machine: </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I LIVE AT 123 MY STREET. MY PIANO NEEDS TUNING. I LIVE AT 123 MY STREET. IT SOUNDS HORRIBLE. I LIVE AT 123 MY STREET. I NEED IT TUNED TOMORROW. I LIVE AT 123 MY STREET. CALL ME.</SPAN></STRONG><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">After my ears stopped ringing, I call her..... and they started ringing again. Made appointment. Pull up in her driveway Wednesday - I could hear the TV LOUD in the driveway. 120 year old lady - very sweet - she had the big eyes and high cheekbones - could tell she must have been a knockout 95 years ago. I asked how long it had been since last tuning. She didn't answer so I asked: </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">HOW LONG SINCE LAST TUNING.</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> She said many years. Anyway, I did a 25 cent pitch raise and tuned the so-so condition 1970-ish Baldwin console.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">FWIW, she is a "musicologist". What is that? She also teaches piano.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">She calls me yesterday and says that some notes still don't sound right together. I didn't have the heart to ask which ones (like maybe C and C#?). So I told her I would call her Sunday early afternoon and stop by to check it out. (I have a morning appointment nearby that day.)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I know what it will sound like - a crappy little old Baldwin console that just had a pitch raise and a tuning. She's going to plunk away at several keys, not hear a darn thing, and ask me: "see? hear that?"</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">So what's the plan? Smile, wiggle a few tuning pins, and say: "Oh, yeah, that should sound better now...?"</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">This is my second call-back on a tuning in 10 years. The other one was a few years ago from a 115 year old lady who couldn't hear a fire engine honking it's horn if she was standing right next to it.......</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">:-(</SPAN></STRONG><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Terry Farrell<BR>Farrell Piano</SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A href="http://www.farrellpiano.com/">www.farrellpiano.com</A><BR><A href="mailto:terry@farrellpiano.com">terry@farrellpiano.com</A></SPAN><o:p></o:p></div></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>