<div> Hi David, Today I hope to find out what the key height spec IS for this instrument (and what elevation the fallboard guide pins should be above the keybed).  Not Japanese.  Will check keys vis a vis keyslip, fallboard gap when closed.  Shanks are just above rest cushions. Thanks, Alan Eder </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> -----Original Message----- From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> To: pianotech@ptg.org Sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 8:56 pm Subject: Re: fallboard vs. keytops <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_2708a86a-d754-47bb-a049-f39ef63e1750" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>Key height to spec at the extremes? Keys look correct to keyslip? i.e. key front looks like a square...key pins up into the key mortice a bit when key at rest? Is this a Japanese piano? if so not likely a manufacturing error...really does sound like a bedding problem. A quick look at the glides would show if they were turned down abnormally...Does the fallboard have a normal gap at the top when closed? How do the cheekblocks align with fallboard? Keys much higher than the cheekblocks? Check blow distance...shanks just above the rest felt...normalcy... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: <a href="mailto:reggaepass@aol.com">reggaepass@aol.com</a> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Received: 9/1/2008 8:21:32 PM Subject: Re: fallboard vs. keytops > Hi Rex, >Thanks for your input.? I had the action in and out and used the una corda pedal, so >it doesn't appear to be interference with overly long leg bolts in this particular case >(although that's a good one to be on the look-out for).? The fallboard pins COULD be >in the wrong place--hope to sort that out with the manufacturer tomorrow.? I'm not >sure what you mean by them being "installed upside down," though.? Could you >please clarify that? >Thanks, >Alan Eder > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rex Roseman <<a href="mailto:rosemanpiano@gmail.com">rosemanpiano@gmail.com</a>> >To: 'Pianotech List' <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> >Sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:35 pm >Subject: RE: fallboard vs. keytops >Alan >? >Does the action shift correctly? One of >the things I have seen working for a piano store is that the movers sometimes >do not put the leg/lyre bolts in the correct place. Some pianos have shorter bolts >for the front legs. If the long bolts are put in the front, it will cause the >action to be lifted on that end. Usually the complaint is the piano will not >play correctly in the treble, but someone may have lowered the hammer line not >realizing that the end of the keyframe was in the air; resting on the leg bolt >and not the keybed. This could cause the treble keys to be high enough to be >depressed >by the fallboard. The quick check for this is to try to shift the action. It >will not shift in this condition. (You will also have to back out the offending >bolt to get the action out.) The solution to this problem is to take out the >offending bolt and remove one bolt at a time from each of the other leg and >lyre positions and compare the length. (If you take a bolt out, check it and >replace if not shorter before you take out the next bolt you will not have to >worry about the piano legs or lyre falling off.) >? >Course it could be that the pin is in the >wrong place or installed upside-down. >? >Just a couple of obvious (and not so >obvious) ideas on things to check. >? >Rex Roseman >? > </tt></pre> </div>  <div id='u8CADB07152A1572-D64-4294' class='aol_ad_footer'><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"><A title="http://mapquest.com/toolbar?ncid=mpqmap00050000000010" href="http://mapquest.com/toolbar?ncid=mpqmap00050000000010" target="_blank">Get the MapQuest Toolbar</A>. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More! </div>