<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6001.18099" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>I should clarify, that I neglected to remember, that the original question was about a Yamaha.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>I was thinking of the Aeolian products that had a lip, that the 'whatever ' would wedge against. I was lucky enough not to have any fall.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>This is only on ones I was unable to remove the pin in.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>I familiar with the slide pin/hinges on some Asian pianos.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>John Ross</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=IFixPianos@yahoo.com href="mailto:IFixPianos@yahoo.com">Michael Magness</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dnereson@4dv.net href="mailto:dnereson@4dv.net">David Nereson</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:14 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Propping up side-hinged lid</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM, David Nereson <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:dnereson@4dv.net">dnereson@4dv.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <DIV bgcolor="#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">Despite all the suggestions of using a pedal rod as a prop, I think it's too dangerous to have the lid propped that high in the air.  I carry a small punch and vise grips and remove the hinge pin so I can just take the lid off and out of the way.  It only takes 10 or 15 seconds.  If the hinge pin comes out towards the wall instead of towards me, I move the piano from the wall, take out the pin, shove the piano back, and put the pin back in from the front when I'm done. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">    --David Nereson, RPT </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV><BR>I have to second David's words. Although I find the side hinged pianos to be the epitomy of idiocy in piano design or did until I saw what the Baldwin(redneck) piano company is doing to many of their grands, but I digress.</DIV> <DIV>I would just as soon not have my valuable hands, arms and possibly head inside the piano with the lid precariously balanced on a broomstick, threaded rod designed for a lesser purpose, pedal rods or heaven forbid, a yardstick. One particularly tight pin, a heavy truck going by or a small child running into the piano could too easily dislodge it and damage me and/or the piano.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mike<BR>-- <BR>I feel sorry for the person who can't get genuinely excited about his work. Not only will he never be satisfied, but he will never achieve anything worthwhile. <BR>Walter Chrysler <BR><BR><BR><BR>Michael Magness<BR>Magness Piano Service<BR>608-786-4404<BR><A href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</A><BR>email <A href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</A><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>John M.Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></BODY></HTML>