<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> And the University of Western Ontario!!!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> David Weiss<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of paulrevenkojones@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:49 PM To: tvaktvak@sbcglobal.net; pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Teaching Tuning<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> CSPT (Chicago School for Piano Technology)!  NBSS (North Bennett Street School)! <img width=19 height=19 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/smile.gif" alt=":-)"> Yup, it's difficult. You can find our entire curriculum out on our website, Tom. It's taken years to develop, and we're not done, ever.  While you're there, take a look at the graduates page, see what they're doing after one year of training. Paul<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sivak <tvaktvak@sbcglobal.net> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 5:24 pm Subject: Teaching Tuning<o:p></o:p> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_d86c52cb-f0e0-48e9-af91-435d44d3d4f0"><pre style='background:white'><tt>I have a new-found respect for those of you who teach others to tune.  I took on </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>a student, albeit a not-too-serious one, this summer.  I have taught piano for </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>nearly 20 years, I used to teach college level music theory; I thought I could </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>be a good tuner-teacher, too.   Not so.  Knowing what you're doing doesn't </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>necessarily make you able to teach that to others.</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>My theory, as to why this was so difficult for me, is that I basically taught </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>myself how to do all this stuff.  Sure, I had tutoring sessions with various </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>RPTs here in my area, but for the most part, I read, I watched others </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>critically, I attended all the PTG meetings and Institutes I could, and I bought </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>old junker pianos and regulated, reconditioned, and partially rebuilt them.  </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>I didn't really do it all by myself, but there was no curriculum I followed, nor </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>any logical course of action other than trying to absorb everything that came my </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>way.</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>So when it came time to pass this knowledge down, I had no idea how to form </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>basic lesson plans that progressed from one step to another, or create aural </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>tuning exercizes to help this youngster learn how to tune.  </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Perhaps a more serious student might have made me feel a little better about the </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>job I did, but I don't blame the student.  I think I'm just no good at it.  I </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>don't foresee taking on any other students in the future.</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>No response necessary from anyone on this post.  Just wanted to express my </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>gratitude to those who helped me get a start, and my admiration for those of you </tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>who have the talent to teach others.</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Tom Sivak</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Chicago</tt> <tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre></div> <div id=u8CAE6658F9ADB18-8A4-8ED> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-top:7.5pt;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? <a href="http://television.aol.com/feature/fall_tv?ncid=aoletv00050000000037" target="_blank" title="http://television.aol.com/feature/fall_tv?ncid=aoletv00050000000037">Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV</a>. <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>