Who is giving this guy a "reputation as one of the country's best rebuilders", says the article???!!!  Certainly none of us!  Perhaps we should get him to join so we can teach him the right way before he ruins any Steinways. By the sounds of it, he knows very little in his 20-year self-taught education. PW <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>"Michael Magness" <IFixPianos@yahoo.com> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 09/26/2008 08:35 AM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td>"Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>, caut@ptg.org <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>Bass end "rattle" on S&S "D" Being prepped for Brickman Concert        SOLVED! Question about Steinway Rebuilder</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Many thanks to all for your excellent and timely advice.  It turned out to be the very first suggestion from Ed Foote amplified by suggestions from Fred Sturm. I was still convinced it was a rib/soundboard problem so I used the palette knife test from underneath as Ed Sutton had described but could find no loose areas anywhere. That test will remain in my arsenal for the future however. I climbed out from underneath and probed with the long palatte knife under the bridge and there was that opening, I placed a wedge, played the notes and voila, no more rattle. I removed the wedge added a drop of Franklin's hide glue and replaced it and was done for the morning. I was scheduled to return at 3:30 to "touchup" the tuning after sound check. I arrived on time and sat for almost 3 hours waiting, Brickman didn't arrive until after 5 and then was unhappy with the tone of the piano through the tenor section. I had pre-tuned the piano Wed. afternoon using a concert tuning giving it plenty of stretch in the upper end which gave it a brighter sound in the treble and with the strong bass of the D made the tenor sound muffled by comparison. He was complaining about that throughout the sound check. His tech guy came over and told me he prefers Yamaha's and that was the real problem. There was some mention that it was a Hamburg D by the theatre manager, my Steinway knowledge isn't that strong, I wouldn't know how to tell.   I didn't tell him that I had told the people at the school that the piano was in very poor regulation, aftertouch of .060"+, hammers checking very low, repitition springs tight, 25+ swings on the few random hammerflanges I checked and more. While I was prepping the piano, prep being rough tuning, hunting for the rattle and fine tuning it on Wed., that was all they wanted/allowed me to do, there was a meeting at which it was decided I should only tune, not do any "tech" work. It was explained to me that the pianos had been rebuilt by their "Steinway rebuilder" who had given them a warranty and he would be called for the tech work.   The link below is an article about him and his rebuilding work for the school. If you google his name, some other articles and his website come up. He is not a PTG member, I don't believe he ever has been, note the self-taught quote. To my knowledge he has no contact with any techs, at least in this area, none in our chapter. With the exception of John Sheldach, who left his employ to work as a piano tech in the LaCrosse, WI area and was my predecessor at the school in question, before following his fiance to her new job in Madison, WI about 150 miles away <a href=http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3652/is_200009/ai_n8910061>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3652/is_200009/ai_n8910061</a>   I would be very interested to know if anyone knows this Steinway rebuilder or of him outside our little area.   Mike - I feel sorry for the person who can't get genuinely excited about his work. Not only will he never be satisfied, but he will never achieve anything worthwhile. Walter Chrysler Michael Magness Magness Piano Service 608-786-4404 <a href=http://www.ifixpianos.com/ target=_blank>www.IFixPianos.com</a> email <a href=mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com target=_blank>mike@ifixpianos.com</a>