<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The general consensus has been to go with the more Steinway-like hammers, like Steinway or Ronsen (likely be my choice, as the owner expressed that he isn't necessarily sold on the idea of Steinway parts) and increase knuckles to 17 mm to compensate for the heavier modern hammers.  Next step is to get samples to try out.  I'll to to Mr. Negron at Ronsen and see what he needs in terms of measurement and go from there.<br> <br> Thanks again to everyone for their input.<br> </font></div> <div> <br> </div> <div id="sig1839" style="clear: both;"><font>Dave Stahl<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">, RPT</font><br> dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net<br> dstahlpiano.net</font></div> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> -----Original Message-----<br> From: reggaepass@aol.com<br> To: pianotech@ptg.org<br> Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:05 am<br> Subject: Re: (a first for me...) new hammers for 1927 s and s L<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_938cd36a-08ec-4c20-b5b2-43d1d01ea612"> Yes, because if the hammers are shot, then there is certainly going to be "room for improvement" (to say the least) where the knuckles are concerned.  And it will make a substantial difference in how the action performs.<br> <br> <div>Alan Eder<br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Paul T Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu</a>><br> To: Pianotech List <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 9:14 am<br> Subject: Re: (a first for me...) new hammers for 1927 s and s L<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_f1e52084-d857-47a9-add0-85d0fdfd18f0"> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Good man!</font> <br> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Paul</font> <br> <br> <br> <br> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="40%"><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><b><a href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com">piannaman@aol.com</a></b> </font> <br> <font size="1" face="sans-serif">Sent by: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a></font> <div><font size="1" face="sans-serif">10/02/2008 10:51 AM</font> </div> <table> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td bgcolor="white"> <div align="center"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Please respond to<br> Pianotech List <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>></font></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </td><td width="59%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">To</font></div> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">cc</font></div> </td><td> <br> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: (a first for me...) new hammers for 1927 s and s L</font></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <table> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td> <br> </td><td><br> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <br> <br> <font size="3" face="Arial">Hi Paul,<br> <br> Thanks for the input.  The shanks and flanges will also be replaced.</font> <br> <br> <font size="3">Dave Stahl, RPT<br> Dave Stahl Piano Service<br> <a href="mailto:dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net">dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net</a><br> dstahlpiano.net</font> <br> <br> <br> <font size="3">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Paul T Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu</a>><br> To: Pianotech List <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 8:28 am<br> Subject: Re: (a first for me...) new hammers for 1927 s and s L<br> </font> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> Dave,</font><font size="3"> <br> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> I rebuilt a '32 Steinway L two years ago and used Wally Brook's (Abel) Natural Felt hammers and everyone (piano faculty) loves it!  His prices for boring and tapering, etc., are also very reasonable.  Otherwise, I'd go with Steinway hammers.  Are the shanks/flanges and knuckles good enough to keep for the whole new life of the hammers? Always think ahead....(why do I know=2 0this??? ;>)  )</font><font size="3"> <br> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> Paul T. Williams RPT<br> Piano Technician</font><font size="3"> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> University of Nebraska</font><font size="3"> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> Lincoln, NE</font><font size="3"> </font><font size="2" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u><br> </u></font><a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unl.edu"><font size="2" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>pwilliams4@unl.edu</u></font></a><font size="3"> <br> <br> <br> <br> </font> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="40%"><a href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><b><u>piannaman@aol.com</u></b></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif"> <br> Sent by: </font><a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</u></font></a><font size="3"> </font> <br> <font size="1" face="sans-serif">10/02/2008 10:10 AM</font><font size="3"> </font> <br> <table> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td bgcolor="white"> <div align="center"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Please respond to<br> Pianotech List <</font><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>pianotech@ptg.org</u></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif">></font></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </td><td width="59%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="14%"> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">To</font></div> </td><td width="85%"><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>pianotech@ptg.org</u></font></a><font size="3"> </font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">cc</font></div> </td><td> <br> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">(a first for me...) new hammers for 1927 s and s L</font></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <br> <table> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td> <br> </td><td><br> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <font size="3"><br> <br> </font><font size="3" face="Arial"><br> Liszters,<br> <br> I have a customer, who also happens to have a son who's a classmate of my son, who has an old L that's in pretty good shape, except the hammers are shot.  No room for shaping left on them.  But the strings are good, board is good, block is good . It's pretty solid all-round.  So after years of being pretty much strictly a home-service guy, I'm going to jump in and put a new set of hammers on this piano.  It will be the first complete set I've ever replaced.  <br> <br> I have had a few suggestions from folks on type of hammer, notably Steinway(sticking with the original, expensive) and Abel (more ready out-of-the-box, cheaper). I like the Ronsen VFGs that are on my Mason, too, but am not sure they'd match up well with the Steinway.   I was assuming that I'd go with Steinway, but I need to ask the customer if authentic Steinway parts are necessary.  Since I'm not tooled up to bore my ow n hammers, I'll probably get them pre-bored/pre-hung.  <br> <br> Any suggestions or input would be welcomed.   </font><font size="3"><br> <br> Dave Stahl, RPT<br> Dave Stahl Piano Service</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br> </u></font><a href="mailto:dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net</u></font></a><font size="3"><br> dstahlpiano.net <br> </font> <hr><font size="3">Find phone numbers fast with the </font><a target="_blank" href="http://yellowpages.aol.com/?NCID=emlweusyelp00000001"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>New AOL Yellow Pages</u></font></a><font size="3">! </font> <br> <hr><font size="3">Find phone numbers fast with the </font><a target="_blank" href="http://yellowpages.aol.com/?NCID=emlweusyelp00000001"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>New AOL Yellow Pages</u></font></a><font size="3">! </font> <br> </div> </div> <div id="u8CAF2C83923E5BA-1A88-1076" class="aol_ad_footer"><font style="color: black; font-family: ARIAL,SAN-SERIF; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;"><hr style="margin-top: 10px;">Find phone numbers fast with the <a title="http://yellowpages.aol.com/?NCID=emlweusyelp00000001" target="_blank" href="http://yellowpages.aol.com/?NCID=emlweusyelp00000001">New AOL Yellow Pages</a>!</font> </div> </div>  <div id='MAILCIADB018-88b348e77c2bb8' class='aol_ad_footer'><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">McCain or Obama? 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