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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Two thoughts: </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1)What is the friction under the bearing bar? The
highest string tension in the system will be between the tuning pin and the
bearing bar. Is the bar rough, or tightened down too far? Perhaps some good
lubrication on the bar would help. At one time Steinway was applying a heavy
white grease to the pressure bar, if I remember correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2)Since these are notes 87 and 88, which aren't
very pretty in the best cases, is there enough notch on the bridge to try
sliding a little piece of brass rod on the edge of the bridge, to make a forward
termination? Not classy, but quick out of sight, and likely to be held in place
by gravity assist on a vertical.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=gravagnegang@att.net href="mailto:gravagnegang@att.net">Nick
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT color=#000080>.........</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, given that the
string lengths need to be shorted in this area, the real question to the List
is “what is the easiest and least costly way to do this”? And this is where
the List shines brightest. But without photos and some measurements we don’t
have enough information.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lastly, and I say
this with a grin and sincerity, you might consider doing nothing and simply
accepting the fact that the top two notes must be tuned flat – kind of like
your piano has a bit of arthritis or a bit of a bad back. I have a door in my
house that won’t latch right. I could spend a day fixing it, or even replacing
it, but I live with it and it doesn’t bother me. But that’s me. The door thing
might bother you a lot, as this piano thing might as well.
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Leslie Bartlett<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:02
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Unstringable C8, was Steinway 78183]]</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This trust issue is a big
thing. This from the lady who's top string broke on the Steinway
vertical. I forwarded all the pianotech posts to these folks- trust and
respect at least sometimes coming from honest admission that a problem is
beyond one's ability, but s/he will do their darndest to find a solution. Now,
I just wish we could find that solution! Extending the bridge
closer to the capo seems like a reasonable possibility, huh? It wouldn't
require an entire design of a very old, and mostly nicely rebuilt
piano.<BR>les b<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear Les,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This is Mary writing; Jerry showed me the correspondence you forwarded to him about key 88 on our Steinway. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you for submitting this problem for consideration by the group, and for forwarding to us their insights and ideas. Reading these discussions is fascinating as well as helpful: we get a glimpse of piano workings, and also see the interest and concern of so many knowledgeable people on this question.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You made an excellent difference in the piano, and we appreciate it. The action is noticeably improved, as well as the tuning. I have been playing it faithfully every day, at least some chromatic scales. You are right; it definitely responds to use.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you for your good work. I am so happy that Carl recommended you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mary Ochoa <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>