<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16705" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gotta disagree Wim,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If strings are not full of corrosive rust and bridges and other structural component are reasonable, not perfect, just fair to good. With a disclaimer of 'we might have broken strings or other problems but in my estimation this piano will probably be able to be tuned to concert pitch' I bring it up. I'm also looking for things like string repairs from the past. Of course there are pianos I won't bring up, a lot of times these are pianos I won't tune anyway, but almost all will come up, I'm proceeding carefully, feeling the tension on the string as I go especially in the bass. Of course I'm in California, land of the 100 year old upright.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">wimblees@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:18 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: pitch of old upright</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><WBR>On most old uprights. I don't take any chances of breaking strings, much less the soundboard or the plate, and just tune it where it's at. Unless this piano needs to be on pitch with other instruments, I don't see the need to pull it up, even if it's up to 50 cents flat. <BR><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<BR>Piano Tuner/Technician<BR>Mililani, Oahu, HI<BR>808-349-2943<BR>Author of: <BR>The Business of Piano Tuning<BR>available from Potter Press<BR>www.pianotuning.com</DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: reggaepass@aol.com<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Sent: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 1:40 am<BR>Subject: pitch of old upright<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_e441597e-aa93-4cf8-aaa6-3f693cefd958><WBR>List,<BR><BR>A client has a Reed and Sons upright, made in Chicago in 1907.  It was last tuned three years ago, but is currently 20 to 45 cents flat.  Features include a full plate, agraffes throughout the tenor and treble, continuous brass hammer rail flange, and balance rail pins that start at the top of the keys and protrude UP into the balance rail .  Does anyone know what pitch this instrument is designed for?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Alan Eder <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=MAILCIADA032-886548f1e23e2d2><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> <BR>McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - <A href="http://toolbar.aol.com/elections/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000002" target=_blank>Download Now!</A></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=MAILCIADB047-90c548f23178b9><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> </HR><BR>McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - <A href="http://toolbar.aol.com/elections/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000002">Download Now!</A></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>