<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dale,<div>I have a 1942 Everett 9' C.oncert G.rand.  We liked it OK in a little room with the Wurzens but I have customers looking at it and there were balance problems.  I don't like how the wurzens turned out with juicing.  I'll do some more needling and decide if they are retrievable or not.  Otherwise I'm caught between Abel Naturals and now these Weickerts.  The wurzens had a beautiful round tone that was just too far away.  Juicing them definitely brought out the power but we lost the full tone.</div><div><br></div><div>After getting the hammer situation remedied I may look into wapinizing.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew Anderson</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:39 PM, <a href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br> <br> <font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><strong>  Hi Andrew<br>   Sorry. What's a CG?<br>   Do you mean CD as in concert dept.? What have you done to the AA Wurzen felt so far. What is the pianos size and acoustic environment?<br>  SO many factors at play<br>   Dale</strong></font><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_c1af1aa1-a6d1-4459-afbc-60d3bce964d4">Thanks, <div>I've got some wurzens to replace, not enough cajones for this CG.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Andrew</div> <div><br> <div> <div>On Oct 14, 2008, at 1:31 PM, David Andersen wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">I'll be putting a set in our next piano---an old Kawai as well---but the sample Wurzen-Weickert felt, "hybrid" hammers as described in the  <div>announcement that Dale installed on two notes (C4 and G5) of the Steingraeber 168 grand we used in our class in Chicago over the weekend were, straight out of the box, much punchier than the AAA Wurzen Ronsens, and much fatter and less clangy than Abel naturals---again, all three sets right out of the box. Just my initial take.....</div> <div>David Andersen</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div>On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Andrew Anderson wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite">How do these compare to Abel Naturals?  Or the Wurzen AAA felt hammers from Ronson? <div><br> </div> <div>Andrew Anderson</div> <div><br> <div> <div>On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:09 AM, AlliedPianoCraft wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div id="MailContainerBody" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px" name="Compose message area" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div><font face="Arial">Dale!!!! </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Now you've gotten me all excited! </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">I'll have to go and find a piano that needs new hammers.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Al Guecia</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <div><br> </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</a> </div> <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:40 AM</div> <div><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> </div> <div><b>Subject:</b> The all new Weickert felt hammer by Ronsen</div> </div> </div> <div><br> </div>  <strong><em><font size="3">  I wanted to announce this exciting bit of news here first.<br>   Sincerely<br>   Dale Erwin</font></em></strong><br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_4ad71b22-927d-4e19-a7e9-2cf3a3dd87cc"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_bc0dc725-432f-4ff5-a46f-ac48ce4cfb5a"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_678021c4-fe7f-4251-a967-b295810e33e1"> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_39d499ed-90d2-48e5-b5d6-0c40f2e5e81b"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_b10d0a5a-08df-4928-b41d-88d7997b4473"><font size="3"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="5"><font color="#000000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u>  Ronsen Piano Hammer Company announces<br> </u>   <u>the New Weickert felt limited edition piano hammer</u>.</font></font></font></font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" color="#000000"> <br>          Exclusively produced in America by the Ronsen Hammer Co.<br> <br>   </font><strong><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" color="#000000" size="3">The Wurzen felt company of Germany has just reintroduced the legendary Weickert felt. This felt was prized by hammer piano makers for its resilience & tonal versatility.<br>     Weickert felt was in use by many famous makers for nearly 90 years before WW-II forced the plant to be shut down. All old N.Y. Steinways as well as many other American and European companies used this felt. <br>   When the Berlin Wall came down, the Jack Brand family of Canada purchased the facility and in 1992 began felt production with all the original equipment and felt making formulas still intact! Wurzen makes a host of piano felts for the industry and its products are marketed and used worldwide.<br>  </font></strong></font><strong><br> <font color="#000000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="3">   Now the Famous Weickert felt piano hammer has been recreated. It is a dense,springy felt that provides a rich palette of tonal coloration to the musician and technician.<br>    <u>Ronsen-made Weickert felt hammers</u> elicit enormous sustain and tonal clarity from the very first moment - and these attributes are present without pre-needling. A simple probing of these hammers with a single #6 needle reveals a wonderful dense feel, and the needles go all the way in with a beautiful feel of velvety compliance.<br> <br>   The Weikert-style felt by Wurzen utilizes a special proprietary blend of wools as did the original formulas.<br>  The reduction of protocols known to damage felt fibers in production, such as over-bleaching, pressing, ironing and sanding have all been reduced or in large part eliminated, leaving an absolutely beautiful organic hammer. The felt even smells alive!<br> </font><font size="3"> The Weickert felt's </font></font></font><font size="4"><font size="3"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" color="#000000">density, elasticity and strength are left intact and are the vital and necessary ally of discriminating voicing technicians.<br>   Weickert felt, combined with the time-tested traditional hammer-making protocols of Ronsen's Ray Negron, has now produced one of the finest piano hammers ever available.<br>  Available October 23 thd. Order now</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" color="#000000">.<br> <br>    </font><font color="#000000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u>Priced at $330.00 for 16 lb. felt<br> <br> </u>   <u>Priced at $315 for the 14 lb. felt</u><br> <br>     </font></font><font color="#000000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u>Introductory price of $299.00 <br> </u>   </font></font><font color="#000000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u>Boring extra<br> </u>   For purchases, services, molding and other felt options call Dale Erwin, Ronsen's new West Coast supplier, at Erwin Piano Restoration at 209-577-8397 Pacific West coast time. For voicing and technical support, call either Dale or Ray Negron at Ronsen at 1-800-864-0233 East Coast time.</font></font></font></font></strong></div> </div> </blockquote></div> <div class="aol_ad_footer" id="MAILCIAMB025-5c4e48f4173a39d"><br>  </div> </div> </div> <div class="aol_ad_footer" id="MAILCIAMA035-5bc048f4a145bd"><br> <font style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - <a href="http://toolbar.aol.com/elections/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000002" target="_blank">Download Now!</a></font> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> <br> </div> </blockquote></div> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> <br> </div> = </div> <div id="MAILCIAMA028-5bbf48f52dc31e5" class="aol_ad_footer"><br><font style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">McCain or Obama? 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