<WBR>-----Original Message-----<br> From: John Formsma <formsma@gmail.com><br> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 2:27 am<br> Subject: Re: no rep on upright<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_b9b92490-0291-4bf6-a376-0cca5373f29d> <div dir=ltr>Wim, <div><br> </div> <div>Is this a problem throughout the entire keyboard? Or just on a few specific keys?  <FONT color=#ff0000>The whole keyboard</FONT></div> <div><br> </div> <div>How are the jack springs?  If old, they might be so weak that in regular playing, they wouldn't return the jack under the butt. <FONT color=#ff0000>They are fine</FONT></div> <div><br> </div> <div>I'm not getting your meaning here: "...and the hammer butt gets caught on the back check." <FONT color=#ff0000> It's when the wippen doesn't fallback down</FONT>.. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Did you check to make sure the jack is not being trapped between the jack stop rail (or the back of the letoff rail) and the hammer butt? <FONT color=#ff0000>It is not</FONT>. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>-- <br> JF<br> <br> <div class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:04 AM, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">wimblees@aol.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<br> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I installed a set of new hammer return springs on a Steinway console several weeks ago. The touch is on the heavy side, but not unplayable. Even though everything works "right", on soft blows, the jack isn't going back under. The keys are eased, the wippens and not sluggish, the hammer flanges are not tight, and the jacks return when the keys comes up all the way, and  But on a medium fast repetition, the jack doesn't come back under, and the hammer butt gets caught on the back check.  Would weakening the return springs help this? Or is there something else I should be looking for. <br> <br> <div style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br> Piano Tuner/Technician<br> Mililani, Oahu, HI<br> 808-349-2943<br> Author of: <br> The Business of Piano Tuning<br> available from Potter Press<br> <A href="http://www.pianotuning.com/" target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</A></div> <div><br> <FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - <A href="http://toolbar.aol.com/elections/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000002" target=_blank>Download Now!</A></FONT> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <br> <BR clear=all><br> </div> </div> </div> <div id='MAILCIAMA048-5bb148f4d32a88' class='aol_ad_footer'><BR/><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"></HR>McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - <a href="http://toolbar.aol.com/elections/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000002">Download Now!</a></FONT> </div>