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<DIV><FONT face="Century Schoolbook" size=2>Will,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Schoolbook" size=2>Well said. I remember going to
one of Horace Greeley's demonstration where he took a lot of different hammers
and installed them in a 2 octave range. The demonstration was to show how a good
voicer can take any type of hammer thrown at him and voice them so that the
skilled listerner could not disconcern the final results. That was one of those
eye-opening experiences that start my quest to managing good voicing techniques.
I agree with you 100% that this is an art form and it takes years of practice
and listening to achieve that state of mind. Of course, the bottom line is how
much work are we willing to do to get that great point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Schoolbook" size=2>With this new Weickert felt, the
time issue has been diminished considerably and it's been an eye-opener for me
to see how the choice of felt, combined with a skilled hammer maker can make our
life easier and enjoyable. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Schoolbook" size=2>No pun intended, but I would like to
be the first to nominate Ray Negron for the "Golden Hammer" award this coming
year. Never was there an award more deserving, and never was the name of the
award more appropriate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Schoolbook" size=2>Tom Servinsky</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=surfdog@metrocast.net href="mailto:surfdog@metrocast.net">Will
Truitt</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: The all new Weickert felt
hammer by Ronsen</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
agree with Dale:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
think a good hammer voicer is above all a pragmatist who has a large bag of
tricks at his hand. Whatever gets you where you want to go for the tonal
result you are seeking is good. We have to be able to play the hand that
we are dealt, even with very good hammers of our own choosing. Too many
technicians have unrealistic expectations of what piano hammers can and should
do. They want hammers to be absolutely consistent within a set and
from set to set. That never happens in the real world. Felt
is an organic material and is variable. Even the best hammer sets that I
have had require a fair amount of work to reach their full and glorious
potential. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Different
voicers can have different voicing protocols because they have developed their
skills in an individualized way after much experience. They develop an
evolved tonal memory that comes from years of listening, listening,
listening. And the call and response of the voicing act – you do and the
hammer gives you back its reaction to your applied hand. It’s a joyful
act to thus bring the piano alive. And it is something you can and
should take genuine pride in – after all, you are giving the piano its
VOICE.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Like
Dale, the first thing I do with a new set of hammers is poke it with a needle
to see how it feels. The touch sensitivity which comes from years of
needling hammers will tell you when the felt is good. There is a feeling
of some resistance but also a springy feel of resilience that you can feel
through the needle. If it feels right, it usually will sound pretty
good. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
will be hanging a set of these hammers on a Mason & Hamlin A in a couple
of weeks. I have the set already, and they have passed the needle
test. I’m salivating now, after hearing all these good reports.
Can’t wait to get some noise out of that piano.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>erwinspiano@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:27
PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: The all new Weickert
felt hammer by Ronsen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> Thank you Tom<BR> Beautiful
post full of wisdom gleaned from hard fought experience. I believe this
may help Andrew & Paul to develop their pianos without spending all
the money to start over. Rule of thumb. Big piano are like high maintenance
race cars/horses/Women. grin. We simply learn to treat them in a way
that maximizes there performance. Anyone agree? <BR> I truly hope all
will re-read Toms sage & succinct post here. It seems like every time I
hear someone saying that juice was required to get a tone, it's
stated as if this was an negative consequence. And yet when someone says
they had to needle each hammer about 50 times a side it appears that this is
just some form of accepted elbow & wrist torture that one must go thru to
get the Golden tone. And yet obviously needling is required in many pianos and
is valid method for voicing hammers.<BR> The fact
that a hammer felt requires this much acupuncture is an
indicator that much of natural properties we rely on for tone may have
been killed in pressing, or the felt wasn't that good to begin
with. <BR> As Tom points out on some of the Wurzen AA sets you file
less, sometimes more. Is this also a negative consequence? We know it
isn't. It's a step in the final tone development. SO, some needling & some
juicing is required on many occasions and it is a necessary skill set
that each of us must embrace on the journey in the voicing art form when
becoming a true voicer. If we do not we may erroneously conlude that some
hammer or another isn't any good or can't get there when in fact we haven't
given it a fair hearing with the appropriate voicing protocols<BR>
There is a Golden tone that a medium density hammer can produce with
a light solution that many of us will state catagorically can not be produced
in hard pressed hammers, And as Tom said the next person will not know by
the feel of the needle, a hammer so treated, that any solution has been
applied. This one of the Beauties of the Ronsen way of making
hammers. They are right there close to the tonal mark that Samuel
Wolfendon describes refers to in his book "The Treatise on the art of Piano
Forte construction". page 151 -152. "The hammer should require only mild
needling to open up the hammer"<BR> Yes I learned that felt is hollow
from Jack. Why we didn't know this before I dunno...but, It explains why
wool felt retains so much water. The fibers can fill up retain much water
weight.<BR> I've always held that adding solutions to felt simply
coated and stiffened the outside of the fiber but I now know that adding juice
also stiffens the fiber on the inside as well, and because the felt was
made and kept alive and springy, adding solutions to felt
can stiffen fibers on the inside which works very
well for our voicing purposes, without the resilience being compromised.
Sorry about the run ons.<BR> It's really all a balancing act of
hammer felt stiffness the we juggle with our voicing protocols as we
approach our target tone on a specific piano in a specific acoustic
environment. SO crucial to remember this. <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Heres' my felt test when I receive a new
set of hammers from wherever. I use a no. 6 needle as a probe to test the
density of the hammer. If the needle goes half way in & stops as it
hits a hardened mass they go back. The felt is unworkable. Conversely if
they are too soft they also go back. This is an excellent way anybody can
learn to pre judge a set of hammers before they get to the point of no
return where consternation & gnashing of teeth ensues.<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Hope this helps. Hope no one is doing the
teeth grind on my account<BR> Sincerely<BR> Dale Erwin</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><BR><BR></SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">Paul</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">As
someone who has installed about as many sets of Wurzen hammers in the USA as
anybody, I too have found that the Wurzen hammers need juicing for the
larger instruments.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">I've settled in on a 10:1
lacquer solution which adds just some extra support but not strong
enough to affect needling or diminish the elasticity issues. Anyone
who would have checked to the piano afterwards would be hard-pressed to know
that any additives were added.</SPAN></U><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">That being said, once
juiced, the hammers perform beautifully and develop into a very musical
quality. I've been quite pleased with the results.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">As
with any hammer, half the battle is learning what you have to work with. Some
require very little filing while others require a heavy filing. Some a lot of
needling, some very little.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">Another little tid bit that
I recently learned from Dale Erwin is that the fibers of the wool are actually
hollow, something that was discovered in the R&R labs. Adding solutions to
the hammer actually fills the fibers up and causes the fibers to react
differently. You learn something new everyday!</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">I
too am thrilled to have the Weickert felt back into production. It's about
time that rebuilders have some real arsenal to deal
with.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Schoolbook','serif'">Tom
Servinsky</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I'm all ears for
that as well!! I love the naturals from Wally!! I recently put
Ronsen-Wurzen on our Baldwin D, but I had to really juice them a lot to get
anything out of them, and the techs that responded said otherwise.
what's up with that??? They were more like raw Ronsens, which I
would expected. They sound great now, but it was a hassle!!! I
also Wapinized the bridges and you wouldn't believe the difference.. Glad I
did it!!</SPAN> <BR><BR><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR>How do these
compare to Abel Naturals? Or the Wurzen AAA felt hammers from Ronson?
<BR><BR>Andrew Anderson <BR><BR>On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:09 AM,
AlliedPianoCraft wrote: <BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dale!!!! </SPAN><BR>
<BR><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Now you've gotten me all
excited! </SPAN><BR> <BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I'll have to go and find a piano
that needs new hammers.</SPAN> <BR> <BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Al Guecia</SPAN> <BR>
<BR> <BR><BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</A> <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:40 AM <BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> <BR><B>Subject:</B>
The all new Weickert felt hammer by Ronsen <BR><BR> <B><I> I
wanted to announce this exciting bit of news here
first.<BR> Sincerely<BR> Dale Erwin</I></B> <BR><U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> Ronsen Piano
Hammer Company announces</SPAN></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><BR> <U>the New
Weickert felt limited edition piano hammer</U>.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> <BR>
Exclusively produced in America by the Ronsen Hammer Co.<BR><BR> <B>The
Wurzen felt company of Germany has just reintroduced the legendary Weickert
felt. This felt was prized by hammer piano makers for its resilience &
tonal versatility.<BR> Weickert felt was in use by many famous
makers for nearly 90 years before WW-II forced the plant to be shut down.
All old N.Y. Steinways as well as many other American and European companies
used this felt. <BR> When the Berlin Wall came down, the Jack Brand
family of Canada purchased the facility and in 1992 began felt production
with all the original equipment and felt making formulas still intact!
Wurzen makes a host of piano felts for the industry and its products are
marketed and used worldwide.<BR><BR> Now the Famous Weickert felt
piano hammer has been recreated. It is a dense,springy felt that provides a
rich palette of tonal coloration to the musician and technician.<BR>
<U>Ronsen-made Weickert felt hammers</U> elicit enormous sustain and tonal
clarity from the very first moment - and these attributes are present
without pre-needling. A simple probing of these hammers with a single #6
needle reveals a wonderful dense feel, and the needles go all the way in
with a beautiful feel of velvety compliance.<BR><BR> The Weikert-style
felt by Wurzen utilizes a special proprietary blend of wools as did the
original formulas.<BR>The reduction of protocols known to damage felt fibers
in production, such as over-bleaching, pressing, ironing and sanding have
all been reduced or in large part eliminated, leaving an absolutely
beautiful organic hammer. The felt even smells alive!<BR>The Weickert felt's
density, elasticity and strength are left intact and are the vital and
necessary ally of discriminating voicing technicians.<BR> Weickert
felt, combined with the time-tested traditional hammer-making protocols of
Ronsen's Ray Negron, has now produced one of the finest piano hammers ever
available.<BR>Available October 23 thd. Order now.<BR><BR> <U>Priced
at $330.00 for 16 lb. felt<BR></U><BR> <U>Priced at $315 for the 14
lb. felt</U><BR><BR> <U>Introductory price of $299.00
</U><BR> <U>Boring extra</U><BR> For purchases, services,
molding and other felt options call Dale Erwin, Ronsen's new West Coast
supplier, at Erwin Piano Restoration at 209-577-8397 Pacific West coast
time. For voicing and technical support, call either Dale or Ray Negron at
Ronsen at 1-800-864-0233 East Coast time.</B></SPAN>
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