<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Thanks Dale for the info.</div><div>I have already sent an email to Renner about this, but, no answer yet.</div><div>Let us see if Renner has this new felt.</div><div>I will keep you guys and gals informed.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; ">friendly greetings<br>from<br>André Oorebeek<br><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; ">Antoni van Leeuwenhoekweg 15</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; ">1401 VW, Bussum</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; ">the Netherlands</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; ">tel :    +31 35 6975840</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; ">gsm : +31 652 388008</span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; "><br>"where Music is, no harm can be"</span></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 17, 2008, at 6:41 PM, <a href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_3_20a16189-cc57-4242-a6c7-89fe8bb5621d" style="MARGIN: 10px"> <div style="BORDER-RIGHT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #7da8d4 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; BORDER-LEFT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #7da8d4 1px solid"> </div> <div id="AOLMsgPart_6_20a16189-cc57-4242-a6c7-89fe8bb5621d"><font size="3"></font><br> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3"> Dear  Andre<br>   The New felt  has been under proprietary wraps until now. Not even Renner in Germany knew till just lately. Jack, Ray & I have been working on this for quite a while now</font>. <br> <br> </font> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_7dfbaecf-036b-4860-b2b6-6272a778ed4d"> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">Hi Dale and Listers,</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">Except from this list, I have not yet heard about the new "Weickert Special by Wurzen" here in Europe.</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">I find that strange.</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">I will of course ask Renner, traditionally the Wurzen felt hammer maker.</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">I wonder about the hardness of this Weickert Special?</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helve tica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">These last years new Wurzen felt hammers were a bit soft. I have learned how to solve that problem, but I have asked Renner Europe to do something about that.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" color="#0000ff"><font color="#ffffff">I am a bit afraid that this new top quality felt might be too soft as well.</font><br> </font><br> <font size="3"> </font></font><strong><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3"> I assure you, it is not soft in terms you describe. If it were,  the testors & I would not be getting this gorgeous tone from the beginning with hammers pressed far differently than what you're accustomed to.<br>   It is like nothing I've used before. The fiber interlocking is the key. It gains it's natural hardness by true tension & compression, something that in the art of hammer making that has been forgotten or lost or perhaps misunderstood. You could instruct Renner Germany to press it however suits you when it become available to them as you have that relationship with them.</font><br> </font></strong></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <br> <font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" color="#ffffff">We are in agreement that Jack Brand's felt is the best hammer felt in the world<br> </font></font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">I therefore am happy with my Wurzen A from Renner.</font></div> <div><font style="B ACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#ffffff">I am of course curious though and open to try it out.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#ffffff"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000ff">I will contact Jack Brand and Renner.</font><br> </font><br> </font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong><font size="3">Good. will enjoy your feedback<br> </font>  Kindest regards...as always<br>   Dale Erwin<br> </strong><br> </font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></div> <div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">friendly greetings<br> from<br> André Oorebeek<br> <br> </font></span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Antoni van Leeuwenhoekweg 15</font></span></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">1401 VW, Bussum</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">the Netherlands</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><br> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></span> </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">tel :    +31 35=2 06975840</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">gsm : +31 652 388008</span></font></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><br> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">"where Music is, no harm can be"</font></span></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> <br> <div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:00 AM, </font><a __removedlink__1444205671__href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">erwinspiano@aol.com</font></a><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> wrote:</font></div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"><br> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">  Hi Andre<br>   Good to hear from you on this as I know you have championed the cause of excellent feltand have been  a staunch proponent of properly pressed hammers. Both as you say is so important.<br>  It's nice to know Renner makes a hammer you can work with there. Renner USA in the states has also been a long and trusted  supporter of W urzen Felt co. & the Brand family. In fact, from the very beginning Lloyd Meyer Of Renner U.S.A. signed up with Jack to reintroduce the quality felt made in that plant. The Quality of The Renner USA product shows the Commitment of Lloyd & Donna Meyer to this endeavor. We are directly and indirectly in there debt as they were one of Jacks first clients when the plant reopened in 1992.<br>  Consequently Jack has passionately pursued the making of Fine Hammer felt using20many of the original J.D Weickert co. formulas and protocols.<br>   The Wurzen made felts have been called  thus far and are Known by the  felt grades of... Wurzen..  A ... and AA.<br>   I want to be clear that this latest iteration is  known by the now <strong>trademarked </strong>name the<u><em><strong> "<font size="3">Weickert special by Wurzen</font>"</strong></em></u> and is a fairly dramatic shift up the quality line in terms of felt science and technology.  In fact Ray,Jack and I discoverd that it is so dramatically different that w e decided it required this name.    <br>    All the Hammer felts Wurzen makes are fine quality and this new <u><em><strong>Weickert special by Wurzen</strong></em></u>  gives us another huge compliment to our tonal arsenals & huge a move toward the future of a more musical piano tone.<br>     I will truthfully say that Jack is a true artisan felt maker who is also as equally passionate about this en deavor as technicians. This strkies me as odd because Jacks Wurzen co. make so many felt products and hammer felt is small part of the felt making operation. Yet, he loves it. You know...we are all passionate about something. Jacks is felt & ours is tone<br>  My Friends we have a true ally in our business & he is my friend, Jack . My only regret is we didn't meet sooner. Perhaps we can get him to teach at our conventions more frequently.<br> &nbs p; Andre, I'm looking forward to getting a copy of your voicing book. WHen does it come out?<br>   Dale Erwin<br> </font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><br> </font><br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_7be68d39-b9f3-4e7b-881d-2dd31b3d9c09"> <div>You guys seem to forget that Renner makes very beautiful hammers here in Europe, with.. Wurzen felt.</div> <div>I have been in contact with Jack Brand for a long time, and I have followed the development of his 'Wurzen felt' right from the start, after the reunion of the two Germany's.</div> <div>I have had this fantastic felt for a=2 0long time now and I never ever want any other felt.</div> <div>Because of my age, (I am 59) I am a typical example of a generation that was forced to learn voicing with the felt that was for sale as an alternative for the Weickert felt, simply because the Weickert felt was not produced anymore after the Soviets entered East Germany.</div> <div>Getting acquainted with the 'new' Wurzen felt was a surprising discovery! even though i t was in its early stages of development after all those years.</div> <div>I have actually learned to voice this renewed Weickert felt, which was named Wurzen felt after the town where it is made (Wurzen), at Yamaha, because they were, I guess, one of the very first ones (together with Steinway, to use the new Wurzen felt on their CFIII-S.</div> <div>I do not really like the AA standard because it is, according to me, too dense and too heavy, and it takes much longer to voice than the single A standard which is my favorite.</div> <div>The real secret of having a fine success with these hammers is :</div> <div>1. the quality of the wool</div> <div>2. the quality of the felt</div> <div>3. the quality of the hammer maker</div> <div>4. the quality of the technician</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I have been able to influence Renner to make a hammer for me, according to my taste.</div> <div>That makes all the difference! and that is , I guess, is what Ray Negron is doing.</div> <div>He (Ray Negron)20told me that his father used Weickert felt in the old days.</div> <div>Because of our contact, years ago, and through the willingness of Jack Brand, the Weickert/Wurzen felt came back to Ronsen and back to the US.</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">friendly greetings<br> from<br> <strong>André Oorebeek<br> </strong><br> </span></div> <div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> </div> </div> <div class="aol_ad_footer" id="MAILCIAMB035-5bae48f6923e6"></div> </blockquote></div> <br> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text: 0"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <div><br> </div> </div> </span></div> </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div> <br> = </div> <div class="aol_ad_footer" id="MAILCIADA046-5baa48f8a995252"></div> </div> </div> <div id="MAILCIADB032-5bc048f8c02b1af" class="aol_ad_footer"> </div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div></div></span></div></span> </div><br></body></html>