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color:#1F497D'>Then go for the Gusto.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shawn
Brock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 24, 2008 6:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pianotech List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Hardman Peck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Will,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
think people are misunderstanding my intentions here. I have never had
any intentions of going into piano retail, I'm 99 percent technician. I
am just looking at carrying between 1 and 3 pianos at a time. Yes the
Hardman Peck is Chinese. We are talking about uprights that start at
$1300 wholesale. So I don't know that it would be a major business risk
for me. After all, I have sold used pianos that I have had as much money
in. The 2 things that makes it easier for me to move product is I
can play it and I can work on it. People seem to trust and respect you
more when you can do one or the other or both. The dealers here can't do
either vary well. I think you guys are correct in your thinking, but I
don't think you got a clear perception on what I was trying to ask. Sorry
for my lack of clarity. So, that's the bottom line, I'm just looking to
shove a few pianos into the back of my shop and get rid of them as I can.
Gosh! I would never want to get a retail space... </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Shawn
Brock, RPT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>513-316-0563</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.shawnbrock.com">www.shawnbrock.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:surfdog@metrocast.net"
title="surfdog@metrocast.net">Will Truitt</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Friday, October 24,
2008 6:37 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> RE: Hardman Peck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Shawn:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In general, I agree with Wim. I was a Baldwin and Young
Chang dealer for 7 years until 2002. I never worked so hard for so
little money and so much risk. And that was when the market was still
good, a low volume, high margin business, whereas now it is an even lower
volume, low margin business. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would ask you this: If these well positioned and
experienced dealers can’t make it work in this economy, what do you bring to
the table that would lead you to believe that you will have a different
result? If you want to go ahead anyway, buy one or a very few with
cash and be able to let that money sit in those pianos for as long as it takes
to sell them. That may be longer than you think. I don’t know the
Hardman Peck (probably Chinese?), but I would say only that it has no name
recognition and the name won’t be meaningful to your potential buyers.
What is your business plan to market these pianos?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t mean to rain on your parade. I can tell you that
in this market, I have no desire to be a piano dealer again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Will Truitt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>wimblees@aol.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 24, 2008 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Hardman Peck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Shawn<br>
<br>
Unless you have the capital to buy them outright, I would not recommend
you get in the new piano market, even on a limited basis. It looks glorious,
but in the long run, it will drive you out of business. For what you have
to pay for the new pianos, and make a profit, you'll be money ahead if you
bought used pianos with that money. And I would definitely stay out of the
new piano business if you have to finance them. The interest will kill you.
Stay with the used market for now.<br>
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Take it from someone who's been there, done that, and lost his shirt. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br>
Piano Tuner/Technician<br>
Mililani, Oahu, HI<br>
808-349-2943<br>
Author of: <br>
The Business of Piano Tuning<br>
available from Potter Press<br>
www.pianotuning.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Shawn Brock <shawnbrock@fuse.net><br>
To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br>
Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 9:04 am<br>
Subject: Hardman Peck<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>in
this sputtering economy and with every piano dealer in Cincinnati crying about
not making the capital to stay afloat I'm looking for something new to add
to my arsenal. That something is new piano sales. For a while I
have been picking up used pianos to push out the door as rentals or in the case
of the nicer instruments good old cash on the barrel head. I would like
to pick up new pianos that are decent but not priced unrealistically, or are
not junk! Anyone have thoughts on the Hardman Peck? You can email
me privately if you like. Most of the economical piano lines are taken
for a while, but these guys have an opening and I need to decide something
fairly soon. I know I have worked on a few of these, but its just that, a
few and I would like to get the thoughts of some of you who might be more
experienced with this product. How do they compare with Hallet Davis or
other similar lines? ! ; Thanks as always!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Brock, RPT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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