<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19019"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Helvetica; } @font-face { font-family: Helvetica; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Georgia; } @page WordSection1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-type: personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=#ffffff vLink=purple> <DIV>David, </DIV> <DIV>If the web browse you are using has a "memory" function, when you want to respond to a posting, it may take a few seconds to come up, unless you leave the website up and running all the time, then all you have to do is bring it to front on your computer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ken Gerler</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidlovepianos@comcast.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 07, 2011 8:18 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] New Format--y___</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=WordSection1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">OK I’ll take back my “yuck” (deleted from the subject line) conditionally until I figure this whole thing out and see where it goes.  For the record, however, should I have to log into the website for posting and reading once the email system shuts down I will consider that a change for the worse.     Expedience, simplicity and ease of access is an essential part of the program for me.  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">David Love<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron Berry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 07, 2011 2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] New Format--yuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>Al, <o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>You got it right, except that when you click "Reply to Discussion" it will launch your browser and take to the right spot in the forum to make a reply.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>ron<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft <<A href="mailto:alliedpianocraft@hotmail.com">alliedpianocraft@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>So as I understand it. All posts made to the pianotech forum will continue to come to us by way of email if we are subscribed to "Real Time" and you need to reply via the "Reply to Discussion" tab in the post to keep the discussion on the forum, yes?. And all posts sent via email will not show up on the forum, yes? <o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>So from that can I conclude that once everyone is signed up to the forum, it will be business as usual and all discussion will come into your email box where you can "Reply to Discussion". So, the only time you need to go to the web forum is to initiate a new discussion, Yes?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Al -<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">High Point, NC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>On Mar 7, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Allan Gilreath, RPT wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> <DIV> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>The email lists are still in place temporarily during the transition period. For posts to be archived, they should be done through the Forums. Reading of posts can easily be done through email by setting your preferences in <A href="http://my.ptg.org" target=_blank>my.ptg.org</A>, Discussions, My Subscriptions to Real Time, Daily Digest, PDA, No emails (that your be web only reading) or unsubscribe. Replies that are made strictly through the email list will be lost in the near future.<BR><BR>Best to all,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: black">Allan<BR>Allan Gilreath, RPT</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>Registered Piano Technician<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><2007-RPT-Logo-Web.jpg><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: black">President - Piano Technicians Guild<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="mailto:pres@ptg.org" target=_blank>pres@ptg.org</A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.ptg.org/" target=_blank><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">www.ptg.org</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">phone - <A href="tel:706%20602-7667" target=_blank>706 602-7667</A></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>On 3/7/2011 11:12 AM, Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft wrote: <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>I don't understand what going on with the posting now. Do we continue to post and reply using our email client or do we now need to go online to the PTG website to send and read posts? <o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Al -<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">High Point, NC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>On Mar 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, David Love wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>I'm reposting this using the email system because I'm not sure where it's<BR>getting to in the new my.ptg... format, where it will be posted or who will<BR>have access to it (part of the problem).  <BR><BR>So far this new format is a complete bomb for me.  The email system was much<BR>simpler and sometimes simpler is better.  I could filter all PTG list<BR>messages to a separate folder and easily go there and scan all messages in<BR>one sweep and delete or whatever very quickly.  Now I have to log in<BR>(completely impractical on my PDA) and jump around to discussions and then<BR>open each discussion to see if there's something I want to read.  If a group<BR>has been formed I have to jump into that group (or join it first??? not even<BR>sure why one needs to join a group at this point since the postings are<BR>visible to everyone).  As in this format I don't seem to be able to post to<BR>multiple lists with one posting (as I'm trying to here to send this both to<BR>CAUT and Pianotech lists).  This format requires way too much rooting around<BR>to see if there's something of interest.  The organizational aspect of it is<BR>fine in terms of searching a thread and such but turning it into a Facebook<BR>type of thing just overcomplicates it.  I'm willing to be convinced<BR>otherwise but so far so bad, at least for me.<BR><BR>Let me add something else that I didn't mention above in the original<BR>posting.  The group formation thing seems like a good idea but I can see<BR>where you may end up with some countless numbers of groups and all you've<BR>really done is create a system that makes it that much more difficult for<BR>people to figure out what dialogues are going on that they might be<BR>interested in hearing and monitor those reasonably or what they might be<BR>missing.  <BR><BR>I'm sure that the move to do this was well intended but in terms of my<BR>participation, I can see this has just added enough unnecessary steps to<BR>make it questionable as to whether it's worth the trouble.  It's certainly<BR>less expedient and that may be enough to push me out of active<BR>participation.  If that was the intention, to make it just that much more<BR>difficult to try and remove some of the chatty garbage that tends to clog<BR>the lists then I would say it's a success.  But if the idea is to encourage<BR>participation by making it easier, then so far it's a failure.  <BR><BR>(plus I can't employ my auto spell checker in the new format--did I mention<BR>that?)<BR><BR><BR><BR>David Love<BR><A href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" target=_blank>www.davidlovepianos.com</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Ronald Berry Piano Service<BR>Indianapolis, IN<BR>317-255-8213<BR><A href="mailto:ron@berrypiano.com" target=_blank>ron@berrypiano.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.berrypiano.com" target=_blank>http://www.berrypiano.com</A><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Ask me about Healthy Chocolate!<BR><A href="http://www.berrygoodchocolate.com" target=_blank>http://www.berrygoodchocolate.com</A><BR><BR>Public Key<BR><A href="http://www.berrypiano.com/key/Ron_Berry.txt" target=_blank>http://www.berrypiano.com/key/Ron_Berry.txt</A><o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>