<HTML><HEAD> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19019"></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">John,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Count me into the "forever.." group.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Captain of the Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=formsma@gmail.com href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com">John Formsma</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/8/2011 7:52:50 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Sheesh!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>I hear ya ... although I believe a web forum exists that can really work well. For ease of use, readability, etc, I like what <A href="http://www.bikeforums.net">www.bikeforums.net</A> uses. (It's vBulletin.) Threads are all kept together, and if there is any new activity in a thread, the thread title is bolded at your next login. That makes is super-convenient to stay current with all the discussions you're with which you're interested. It's also fairly easy to send inline photos and/or videos. Private messaging is available.  <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Also nice is a preview feature. Hovering the mouse cursor over a thread title brings up a preview window, with the first few lines of the message displayed. This is really nice because you can tell what the topic is without clicking on it and going to a new window.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>What I don't like there is the ability to quote. It's harder than traditional email, although I like the displayed result.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>What PTG went to now is clunky at best. The "new" feels outdated. I'd much prefer the format of Pianoworld to what I've seen so far. And prefer to stay with email rather than what is being done currently. I don't think it will help discussion at all.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>There are surely some things in any forum software that won't please everyone. I understand it's a lot of work, and I appreciate the efforts. However, it's just not user friendly, and my fear is that people will forever jump off this wagon.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>--</DIV> <DIV>JF<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Joseph Garrett <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">I have not forgotten my pass word, etc. I have it tacked on the shelf above my puter. It just won't take it, so screw it. As to your last statement.....Why bother? I go by the philosophy: It it ain't busted leave it alone! The list was not, in my opinion, busted. The current mess, i.e. Cluster Yuck, is the brain child of those who like to play with their "toys"! I don't have time for that crap. Simple is a whole lot better.</FONT></DIV> <DIV class=im> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Captain of the Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=h5> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=formsma@gmail.com href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com" target=_blank>John Formsma</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" target=_blank>joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank>pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/8/2011 7:10:15 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Sheesh!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>Joe, <DIV>I had problems at first logging in. Couldn't remember my user name or password since that had been saved in my browser preferences.  <B><I><U>Finally</U></I></B> found the "Forgot Password" link so I could have mine emailed to me.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>That being said, I pretty much hate the new web forum. I don't blame you for leaving, and I probably won't stay unless major changes are made.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>--</DIV> <DIV>JF<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Joseph Garrett <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" target=_blank>joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote> <DIV> <P></P> <DIV> <DIV>Allan said:</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>"Joe,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>Login is as simple as entering your member number and password that you </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>received on your membership card form (the one you received after paying </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>your dues.) Even better is that you can change your user name and </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>password to something easier to remember."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>Allan,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Yeah, right! Tried all that crap. Didn't work! As I said in my previous post to Al, Screw it, I'm outta here!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Too much effort just to get on the damned site!  Thanks to all who have offered assistance.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Captain of the Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P></P></DIV> <P></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>JF<BR></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>JF<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>