<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, now totally confused.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Berry<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] OT FOR SHAME! was: Email Lists and Websites<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ryan et al,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I will first take responsibility that I did not push Jim's experiment at parallel  forum and email. Part of the reason for that is that I tend to prefer the email system. I have to make a correction. Jim had this running as a test list on his own server. It was not implemented on the PTG server. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have left the listservs running and we may need them for other reasons as well. That does not negate the need for <a href="http://my.ptg.org">my.ptg.org</a>. There is lots of forum software available but they don't integrate with with MemberMax data which is now where all our Home Office records are. For pianotech and CAUT we might be able to create forum and listserv.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm collaborating with the webteam which includes the board and staff to give an explanation of what is trying to be accomplished with these changes. Pianotech and CAUT are extremely important but they are not everything that PTG does. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We will post that when we get it finished.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In the meantime go back to talking about pianos in either format. I will create a group where we can collect improvement ideas to send on to Higher Logic. Let's get this format discussion off of pianotech for now. I will let you know when another group is ready<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ron<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ryan Sowers <<a href="mailto:tunerryan@gmail.com">tunerryan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I've already contacted my RVP and cc'd it to the rest of the executive board, Keith. <br><br>I'm simply encouraging others to do the same. The more voices are heard, the greater the chances of success. We don't need to be fatalistic about this whole thing. I'm just encouraging people to exercise their rights. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Mr. Mac's <<a href="mailto:tune-repair@allegiance.tv" target="_blank">tune-repair@allegiance.tv</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Ryan Sowers wrote:<br><br>> … All it takes is a motion in council and sound arguments to back it up<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>> to get the machine to do its thing. …<br><br>Go for it, Ryan. Make the motion and present the arguments.<br><br>Keith<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Ryan Sowers, RPT<br>Puget Sound Chapter<br>Olympia, WA<br><a href="http://www.pianova.net" target="_blank">www.pianova.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>Ronald Berry Piano Service<br>Indianapolis, IN<br>317-255-8213<br><a href="mailto:ron@berrypiano.com" target="_blank">ron@berrypiano.com</a><br><a href="http://www.berrypiano.com" target="_blank">http://www.berrypiano.com</a><br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>Ask me about Healthy Chocolate!<br><a href="http://www.berrygoodchocolate.com" target="_blank">http://www.berrygoodchocolate.com</a><br><br>Public Key<br><a href="http://www.berrypiano.com/key/Ron_Berry.txt" target="_blank">http://www.berrypiano.com/key/Ron_Berry.txt</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>