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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:53:48 -0800 "David Love"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net"><davidlovepianos@comcast.net></a> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">I still do consider the list an important part of the
PTG and not a group who has simply developed an inflated sense
of self importance. Comments were made about teachers at
conventions not necessarily being participants in the list but
when I look at Westpac1, just off the top of my head, Del
Fandrich, Dale Erwin, Mike Morvan, Horace Greeley, Nick
Gravagne, and Israel Stein (no less) are all frequent
participants on the list. At national conventions there are
many others. Obviously some teachers don’t participate but
many do and I think the list serves as an important barometer
for what people are talking about and are interested in. I
think it is likely that the Designer’s Showcase would not have
happened were it not for the discussions on soundboard design
that had taken place there over those preceding years. So I
do hope that people stay with it and make the necessary
adjustments. I would also be pleased to see some
acknowledgment by those who have disparaged the group based on
the practices of a few that the list has real value. For me
personally it is probably the most important service that the
PTG offers. </span></p>
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David,<br>
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As the new system becomes more familiar to the users, all the
functions of the old lists will be duplicated (as well as some of
the problems). The bottom line is that those lists have gotten too
big for the PTG's resources to manage. Did you read how much work
has to be put into keeping the spam off the lists while letting
legitimate messages through? I suppose the filters could be turned
off, and then you will see how much crap the moderators/monitors
have to weed through in order to find the legitimate messages that
have been caught by the filters either because the authors did
something stupid or some if the words used are on the watch list for
spam. I suspect all the available volunteers have been burned
through... Alternately, they could leave the filters on and not do
the monitoring - and then you will never know whether your message
will or will not be caught by the filters. Unless, of course, you
are volunteering to do some of that monitoring work - i wonder how
long you will last... I suppose we could hire someone to do it - but
that would require a dues hike, our staff is working at its limit
right now... <br>
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In any case, those lists will shrink as people move to the new
system and abandon them, and will not be able to fulfill those
functions any more. In the final analysis, they were unsustainable
in their bloated form - and you will see that ways will be found to
do everything that they did, and a lot more. Just sit back and let
it happen. <br>
<br>
Israel Stein <br>
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