No David,<div><br></div><div>That's not what's being said. In short, <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>, and <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> will go away. This method that's been discovered (outlined by you, and reposted by me) with our new (dare I say current) web-based system, of posting directly from your email using <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 15px; "><a href="mailto:ptg_pianotchne@egroups.ptg.org" target="_blank">ptg_pianotchne@egroups.ptg.org</a> </span>will continue to work just fine. Keep on truckin'. When Israel writes of "the email lists," he is referring to <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>, <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a>, etc. - the ones that will go the way of the dinosaur. Correct me if I am mistaken, Israel.</div> <div><br></div><div>William R. Monroe</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:25 PM, David Love <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Unfortunately, this is the kind of posting that creates more confusion than clarity. So let me understand what you’re saying. I guess we all understand that at some point the <a href="mailto:Pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">Pianotech@ptg.org</a> listserve as we have known it will be shut down. Are you also saying that posting directly to the discussions in the new website via <a href="mailto:ptg_pianotchne@egroups.ptg.org" target="_blank">ptg_pianotchne@egroups.ptg.org</a> will not be possible at some point under the conditions that you outline below? If that’s the case then I assume that means at some point the only access to the discussion groups will be through the website itself. I don’t wish to start another round of misinformation, we’ve had enough of that. So let’s be clear and concise please. </span></p> <div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">David Love</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Israel Stein<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2011 5:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] <a href="http://MY.PTG.ORG" target="_blank">MY.PTG.ORG</a> egroups.</span></p> </div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Gentlemen,<br><br>In addition to Bill's words (below), I must once more reiterate that the e-mail lists - in the long term - are not sustainable in the PTG framework. There is too much work involved in monitoring the spam filters and approving legitimate messages caught in the spam filters for the PTG's volunteer corps to manage both systems. I suppose they could just stop monitoring the filters - and then all those messages that the filters "think" are spam will not be posted. The other alternative would be to weaken or shut down the spam filters - and then you all will have to wade through a bunch of spam to read the posts. In any case, in the long term the PTG cannot maintain its server (on which the lists live) because our volunteer IT person who managed it is quitting. I suppose the lists could move to some other system, but then the PTG has no obligation to devote its already overloaded volunteer corps to managing them - is there anyone out there who wants to keep those e-mail lists willing to manage them? Been there, done that, it can get pretty nerve racking... The guy who took over the list I started years ago lasted about a half year... <br> <br>Israel Stein <br><br><br><span><b>>On </b></span>Mar 03/14/11 4:24 PM <span><b>William Monroe" <<a href="mailto:bill@a440piano.net" target="_blank">bill@a440piano.net</a></b></span> wrote:<br><br>>Respectfully, gentlemen, most folks, now that they've put a little effort into the new system, are <br> >finding it works quite satisfactorily - in fact, much like this list. </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Observe, from David Love: </span></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">"So are people aware that you can start a new thread without going to the</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br> <span>website by simply sending your email to </span><span><a href="mailto:ptg_pianotechne@egroups.ptg.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2A5DB0">ptg_pianotechne@egroups.ptg.org</span></a></span><span>.</span><br><span>(there's an underscore between ptg and pianotechne in case it doesn't show</span><br> <span>up that way). Type in your subject heading as you would normally and it</span><br><span>simply gets picked up by the system and posted. That basically means you</span><br><span>can operate pretty much outside the website if you choose to, much like the</span><br> <span>old system. I was not aware of this until I just tried it.</span><br><br><span>The same theory would apply to any one of the discussion groups based on how</span><br><span>they are named for example to post to caut discussion group would be</span><br> <span><a href="mailto:ptg_cautne@egroups.ptg.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2A5DB0">ptg_cautne@egroups.ptg.org</span></a></span><span>. I've tried to post this to multiple groups</span><br><span>(Pianotech and Caut both) to see if this works.</span><br> <br><span>Notification settings should be PDA and Text.</span><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888"><br><span>David Love</span><br><span><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2A5DB0">www.davidlovepianos.com</span></a></span><span>"</span></span><span style="color:black"></span></p> </div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <span><span style="color:black">You really should give it a try (chance).</span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">William R. Monroe</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br> </div>