Another option is going to a web forum software that doesn't work through email. Users log in with a user name and password (done once with cookies enabled on the same computer). Only users post. Spam goes bye-bye. (May not be that simple, I know, but it's another option.)<div>
<br></div><div>Some of us don't like the new web forum for DISCUSSION. As Don M. said, and I said before, it probably will work fine for inter-PTG stuff. But there are better options for heavy discussion forums.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But I've already said the above, and there doesn't seem to be much movement toward it. </div><div><br></div><div>So ... I'm going to subscribe to a forum based on who else is there. Right now, it's Pianotech. I'd visit Pianoworld more often, but the quality of the posts don't seem to be what I'm looking for. At least that's how it was in the past. So I'm here for now.</div>
<div><br></div><div>John Formsma, RPT<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Israel Stein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:custos3@comcast.net">custos3@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">Gentlemen,<br><br>In addition to Bill's words (below), I must once more reiterate that the e-mail lists - in the long term - are not sustainable in the PTG framework. There is too much work involved in monitoring the spam filters and approving legitimate messages caught in the spam filters for the PTG's volunteer corps to manage both systems. I suppose they could just stop monitoring the filters - and then all those messages that the filters "think" are spam will not be posted. The other alternative would be to weaken or shut down the spam filters - and then you all will have to wade through a bunch of spam to read the posts. In any case, in the long term the PTG cannot maintain its server (on which the lists live) because our volunteer IT person who managed it is quitting. I suppose the lists could move to some other system, but then the PTG has no obligation to devote its already overloaded volunteer corps to managing them - is there anyone out there who wants to keep those e-mail lists willing to manage them? Been there, done that, it can get pretty nerve racking... The guy who took over the list I started years ago lasted about a half year... <br>
<br>Israel Stein <br><br><br><strong><span>>On </span></strong>Mar 03/14/11 4:24 PM <strong><span>William Monroe" <<a href="mailto:bill@a440piano.net" target="_blank">bill@a440piano.net</a></span></strong> wrote:<br>
<br>>Respectfully, gentlemen, most folks, now that they've put a little
effort into the new system, are <br>>finding it works quite satisfactorily -
in fact, much like this list. <div><br></div>Observe, from David Love:
<div><br></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"So are people aware that you can start a new thread without going to the<br>
website by simply sending your email to <span><a href="mailto:ptg_pianotechne@egroups.ptg.org" style="color:rgb(42, 93, 176)" target="_blank">ptg_pianotechne@egroups.ptg.org</a></span>.<br>(there's an underscore between ptg and pianotechne in case it doesn't show<br>
up that way). Type in your subject heading as you would normally and it<br>simply gets picked up by the system and posted. That basically means you<br>can operate pretty much outside the website if you choose to, much like the<br>
old system. I was not aware of this until I just tried it.<br><br>The same theory would apply to any one of the discussion groups based on how<br>they are named for example to post to caut discussion group would be<br><span><a href="mailto:ptg_cautne@egroups.ptg.org" style="color:rgb(42, 93, 176)" target="_blank">ptg_cautne@egroups.ptg.org</a></span>. I've tried to post this to multiple groups<br>
(Pianotech and Caut both) to see if this works.<br><br>Notification settings should be PDA and Text.<br><font color="#888888"><br>David Love<br><span><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" style="color:rgb(42, 93, 176)" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span>"</font></span></div>
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</span></font></div><div><font color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><font color="#888888"><span></span></font><font color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="font-family:arial;border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">You really should give it a try (chance).<div>
William R. Monroe</div></span></span></font><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>JF<br>
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