<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gene,</font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> I thought increasing back scale lengths might be the reason why, but have learned the hard way not to assume anything.  So, was the difference in lengths gained solely through the elimination of the cantilever, or was the base of the bridge also moved?  And I take it that there is a noticeable change, and you like it?</font> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Alan Eder<br> </font><br> <div style="clear:both"></div> <br> <br> <div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Gene Nelson <nelsong@intune88.com><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2011 6:42 am<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stwy A (6' 1") speaking lengths<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf"> <style>#AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf td{color: black;} @font-face {font-family:Helvetica; panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf p.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf li.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf pre {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf tt {font-family:"Courier New";} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal; color:black;} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf span.EmailStyle21 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; color:black;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} #AOLMsgPart_1_7a18b691-aeec-4624-9c35-63624c4531cf div.Section1 {page:Section1;} </style> <div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Del Fandrich has taught about improved tone with longer back scale length in the lo-bass and I believe him. His portable device demonstrates this for all to hear. If you get a chance to take this class you should.</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The lo-bass on this piano especially had short back scale and the extra 16mm helped get the back scale length closer to 80 or 90mm on the lowest few notes – excluding the tied part of the wire - cannot recall exact lengths. I would have shortened the lo-bass speaking lengths more but was restricted by the plate casting.</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The original bridge and its cantilever was also replaced with a new bridge and no cantilever.</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gene</span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Eder<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 18, 2011 8:37 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [pianotech] Stwy A (6' 1") speaking lengths</span></font></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Thanks for the info, Gene.  Looks like you put the long bridge back in the same relative position to the plate, but shortened up the speaking lengths in the bass by 12 to 16 mm.  I would be very interested in knowing what led you to make this change? </span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Thanks again,</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Alan Eder</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> </span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Gene Nelson <<a href="mailto:nelsong@intune88.com">nelsong@intune88.com</a>><br> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:08 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stwy A (6' 1") speaking lengths</span></font></div> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_9dac31d7-b2e0-43a5-aca8-3a3b92d1115f"> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1909 A original</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; 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