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Order by diameter, not by gage number.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>ddf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><span style='color:blue'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>— </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><span style='color:blue'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob McCall<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Scaling Help<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I have a 2004 - 6'1" Kohler & Campbell KGC650 that I'm restringing (due to beach rust). I mic'd all the strings (making sure it was on clean wire and not any rust to interfere) as I removed them and came up with a plain wire string scale of:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>notes - wire size<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>2 - 19 (.043)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>2 - 18.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 18<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 17.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 17<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 16.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 16<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4 - 15.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>tenor/treble break<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>6 - 15<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>6 - 14.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>6 - 14<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>treble/high treble break<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>8 - 13.5<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>8 - 13 (.031)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>After removing the strings, I noticed the lightly stamped scale on the back side of the bridge in the notch. It differed from mine by a 1/2 size across the board. In other words, where I mic'd a #19 wire (.043) the scale on the bridge showed 19.5.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I called Samick and they sent me a similar scale as to what is on the bridge.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The exception is that in the high treble, where I show 8 - 13.5 and 8 - 13's, they show <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>6 - 14<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>10 - 13.5 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Again these numbers are half a number higher than what I mic'd.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Originally, I started to restring based on the scale from Samick, using the factory numbers, but using Mapes IGS with the corresponding number. That's when I heard that wire from Asian market pianos can be 1/2 size different than the American scale. I'm unable to find any definitive data on that, however. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Now I fear I may be putting a wire on this piano that is 1/2 size larger than what it's supposed to be. Unsure of which scale to use now, I measured everything and input all the data in ScaleRipper and uploaded the file on <a href="http://yousendit.com">yousendit.com</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Anyone that can take a look at the data and offer some help would be much appreciated. Here's the link for the scale ripper download.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>This first link is the Samick data using Mapes sized wire. In other words, possibly 1/2 size too big.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh2RkJlZ2pJMHMwTVE9PQ">https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh2RkJlZ2pJMHMwTVE9PQ</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>This is the data I input based on what I mic'd. This is what was removed from the piano.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh2RkJRdWNoeVpFQlE9PQ">https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh2RkJRdWNoeVpFQlE9PQ</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Let me know if you want the file emailed directly. I put it on <a href="http://yousendit.com">yousendit.com</a> because I was unsure of the file making it through the filters on the pianotech list. Let me know if you want the file emailed directly. The downloads are safe.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The bass strings I'm not worried about. They were mic'd, measured and ordered from Heller Bass in Germany. They just arrived last week. The bass data in the scale ripper files are based on what was removed from the piano. I still had those at home...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The good news is that I've only done about 15 notes. So as unthinkable as it is of having to rewire those, it's a whole lot better than finding out after I was all done! :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks for any and all help.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif";color:black'>Rob McCall<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif";color:black'>McCall Piano Service, LLC<br><a href="http://www.mccallpiano.com">www.mccallpiano.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif";color:black'>Murrieta, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif";color:black'>951-698-1875<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>