<div style = "font-size:12px; font-family:Arial; color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>Arlie,<br />    Seems from your description that this is a pretty standard setup. Working with abandon whether in the shop or not should not have been necessary. <br />Indeed the pins extend into the dowel and may or may not be bushed. All that was needed was a little tap or pull or wiggle or whatever and the dowels with pedal attached would have slud right out . I prefer the  teflon version of VJ lube and maybe the replacement of the cloth punchings on either side of the pedal<br /> If the dowel was cloth bushed then rebushing could be necessary also.The pin should be checked for rust or the evil graphite grease and cleaned as well.<br /> In some cases  the dowels can be loose and the pedal unstable with lateral movement .<br />I whittle a sliver off a hammer shank and tap it down along side the dowel to stabilize the pedal and position it in the "window" of the lyre box. Break it off and reassemble the bottom board as you called it.<br />By the way ,a liberal  shot of protek instead of powdered teflon might have quieted this thing at least for a while.<br /><br />  So why the  reticence in taking this thing apart ? Jump in Dude ---you have nothing to fear but fear itself---or a broken lyre that will haunt your career until you give up and enroll in air conditioning school <G><br /><br />P.S. "Slud" was a Dizzy Dean homage ."  He slud into third base"<br /><br />Best wishes,<br />Tom Driscoll <br /><br /><br /></div><div> </div><div> </div><div style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(188, 188, 188); margin: 5px 0px;"></div><span>On 04/04/11, <span>Arlie Rauch<<a class="parsedEmail" href="mailto:adarpub@midrivers.com" target="_blank">adarpub@midrivers.com</a>></span> wrote:</span>Having a bit of time, I revisited the Baldwin SF grand that had the squeaky pedal. Alas, the rubber bushing was not the culprit. The squeak is down in the box through which the pedals pass.<br /><br />I removed the lyre and removed the bottom board in hopes of removing the offending pedal. Inside there appeared to be dowels on both sides of the pedal. A screw positioned in the dowel and half in the wood block seems to wedge the dowel in place. After removing the screws, one dowel was loose, and the other was not. It appeared that if I could get the dowels out, the pedal would come out, and I would be looking at the culprit. (BTW, the pedal squeaked also when the lyre was totally out of the piano.)<br /><br />If I had been at home in the shop, I would have worked with abandon to remove the stuck dowel and accepted the consequences. But as I was on the road, I had to leave the piano with working pedals. So as not to wreck anything, I put it all back together. Some dry teflon did not help at all to eliminate the squeak.<br /><br />Anyone know how those pedals are supposed to come apart without wrecking anything? What will I find inside? Perhaps the pin through the pedals extends into the dowels? Does the pin turn in felt, or in something else? The secretary at the church says the pedal has been squeaking a long time, but they usually play so loud that no one hears it.<br /><br />Arlie Rauch<br />Glendive, MT<br /></div></div>