<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3px">I'll have to give that a try. Does gently pushing down on the wippen affect the pinning especially on an old piano?  </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div> No, but you do have to be gentle. One problem with doing it this way is that you run the risk of breaking the wippen. That's why you do need to be gentle. </div> <div> </div> <div>Wim </div> <div style="CLEAR: both"></div> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message----- From: Marshall Gisondi <pianotune05@hotmail.com> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:51 pm Subject: [pianotech] spoon <div id=AOLMsgPart_1_fc1cc2fe-f9f6-4d69-b7f7-b37a8d9531b5> <STYLE>#AOLMsgPart_1_fc1cc2fe-f9f6-4d69-b7f7-b37a8d9531b5 td{color: black;} #AOLMsgPart_1_fc1cc2fe-f9f6-4d69-b7f7-b37a8d9531b5 .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } #AOLMsgPart_1_fc1cc2fe-f9f6-4d69-b7f7-b37a8d9531b5 body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Tahoma } </STYLE> Hi William, I'll have to give that a try. Does gently pushing down on the wippen affect the pinning especially on an old piano?    Roger, I don't think the dampers were touching only because they lifted fine when I had the bass sustain depressed. Plus I didn't hear the rubbing sound it would have made. The felts were very dry.    Thanks again everyone for your heop.  Now I am armed with more knowledge.  I sure appreciate yoru hekp. Marshall Marshall Gisondi Piano Technician Marshall's Piano Service <A href="mailto:pianotune05@hotmail.com">pianotune05@hotmail.com</A> 215-510-9400 <A href="http://www.phillytuner.com/" target=_blank>www.phillytuner.com</A> Graduate of The School of Piano Technology for the Blind <A href="http://www.pianotuningschool.org/" target=_blank>www.pianotuningschool.org</A> Vancouver, WA </div> </div>