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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bearing >g< Haven't really measured
crown.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Piano is on a spider and those of you who know me
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<DIV>know my back. Will check Crown perhaps tomorrow </DIV>
<DIV>With a newbie who has a good back. Thanks to Dale I have the
tool.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=erwinspiano@aol.com href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">Dale Erwin</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 03, 2011 10:13
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] SnS rim
screws</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=navy size=2
face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"> Hi
Joe<BR> </FONT></FONT>May<FONT color=navy size=2
face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif">be your using the word
bearing accidentally to mean crown? If the plate was really floating that much
then maybe an increase in tone would occur in the regions which the subsequent
plate movement would increase bearing in a 1 to one relationship. ie
mostly at the bass low tenor or up in high trebles where the bolts are
closer to the hitch rail. Even if the nose bolts/hitch rail were
adjusted a subsequent amount to match the plate ,...Even then sometimes
no change is noticed, except the tuning has now been whacked out.<BR> The
beauty of the WN& G perimeter bolts is that it is possible to play
with/adjust palte height after the piano is strung.<BR> More likely
what you are hearing is from the benefits of mechanical coupling where energy
is now not being lost into gnome land. Either that or....I dunno.<BR> You
heard something...good enough!<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"><FONT size=1><B><FONT color=indigo
face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif">Dale S.
Erwin<BR>www.Erwinspiano.com<BR>209-577-8397</FONT></B></FONT><FONT
size=1><B><BR>209-985-0990</B><BR><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN><B><I><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></I></B></FONT><FONT color=navy
size=1 face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><I><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></I></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><B><FONT size=1>Ronsen hammers/prep<BR>Sitka Sound
boards<BR>Belly packages</FONT></B></SPAN><TT><TT><BR><BR><FONT
size=2> Poor decisions are rarely made right by a greater commitment to
them.</FONT> <BR> <FONT size=2>"<B>David
Love</B>"</FONT></TT></TT><BR><BR></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Delwin D Fandrich <del@fandrichpiano.com><BR>To:
pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:37 am<BR>Subject: Re:
[pianotech] SnS rim screws<BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Then I’d
sure like to see better explanations of just what mechanism might have been at
work to cause an immediate and measurable increase in soundboard crown as a
result of tightening plate screws/bolts. There is nothing one could do to the
rim—or any other part of the skeleton—of an assembled piano that could
conceivably cause a resultant increase in soundboard crown. Tightening plate
screws and/or bolts simply will not do it—no matter how loose they might have
been or how tight they have now become.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Foothill Court SW, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Olympia,
Washington 98512 USA</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July
03, 2011 7:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[pianotech] SnS rim screws</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Joe Gross
wrote: </SPAN></U></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Cut to the
chase: We tightened the bolts with a socket. Crown is back in the
mid section where it was flat. Sustain 8
seconds</SPAN></U></SPAN><U>.</U></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Del,
I don't think it was relative humidity change in this case. As I read it, it
was an immediate change.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">High
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal>On Jul 3, 2011, at 9:51 AM,
Delwin D Fandrich wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s more
likely the relative humidity around the piano has changed thus changing the
moisture content in the board thus changing the amount of crown. Happens all
the time when humidity levels changes.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Delwin D
Fandrich</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Piano
Design & Fabrication</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">6939
Foothill Court SW,<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Olympia,
Washington 98512 USA</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Phone
360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com">del@fandrichpiano.com<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></A>—<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[<A
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>]<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Al Guecia/Allied
PianoCraft<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:33
AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [pianotech] SnS rim
screws</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal>Joe, it could then be possible
that the plate was up off the supports and when you tighten the plate bolts
you got the plate down onto the supports and thus the improved tone and down
bearing.</DIV></DIV>
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-</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">High
Point, NC</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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