<html><head><base href="x-msg://36/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I don't think I said anything about crown. Of course you could never increase crown by tightening plate bolts. But if the plate bolts are loose and the plate isn't sitting down on all the plate supports, you could conceivably increase the down bearing and get a better tone and sustain if the plate was sitting firmly on the plate supports.<div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Delwin D Fandrich wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; ">Then I’d sure like to see better explanations of just what mechanism might have been at work to cause an immediate and measurable increase in soundboard crown as a result of tightening plate screws/bolts. There is nothing one could do to the rim—or any other part of the skeleton—of an assembled piano that could conceivably cause a resultant increase in soundboard crown. Tightening plate screws and/or bolts simply will not do it—no matter how loose they might have been or how tight they have now become.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; ">ddf<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">6939 Foothill Court SW,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">del@fandrichpiano.com<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">—<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, July 03, 2011 7:27 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><u><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">Joe Gross wrote: </span></u></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><u><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">Cut to the chase: We tightened the bolts with a socket. Crown is back in the mid section where it was flat. Sustain 8 seconds</span></u></span><u>.</u><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Del, I don't think it was relative humidity change in this case. As I read it, it was an immediate change.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Al -<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">High Point, NC<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jul 3, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Delwin D Fandrich wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; ">It’s more likely the relative humidity around the piano has changed thus changing the moisture content in the board thus changing the amount of crown. Happens all the time when humidity levels changes.</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; ">ddf</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Delwin D Fandrich</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Piano Design & Fabrication</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">6939 Foothill Court SW,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); ">Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(99, 36, 35); "><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">del@fandrichpiano.com<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></a>—<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ddfandrich@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: navy; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; "><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:33 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Joe, it could then be possible that the plate was up off the supports and when you tighten the plate bolts you got the plate down onto the supports and thus the improved tone and down bearing.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Al -</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">High Point, NC</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>