<html> <body> At 09:44 PM 7/20/2011, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I don't know of the audio recording is listenable; our pal Duaine H. thought not; if it is, you can hear what went down. Just my little bit to enable clarity and teamwork, kids----- DA </blockquote> David A- Thanks for your cogent summary, and for representing ALL Davids at the meeting.  Just to offer some feedback, I just listened to about 15 minutes of the audio and, it was (for me) totally intelligible. It would have helped if the speakers re-introduced themselves when they actually began to speak, and then again, how hard would it have been to video the gathering?  Still, in those first 15 minutes, I began to appreciate what has been going on  'under the hood', and why the pressures to upgrade are more than arbitrary.  Still, there ought to be some way of moving expeditiously on the problems with the new system and certainly a better job of conveying real information in a timely way, to those interested enough to ask.  Hope you're behaving Reasonably I still don't trust the clouds My next mountain, now that Duality is a familiar friend Thanks for that David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY</body> </html>