<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:ns6="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:ns0="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> Yes, 409 contains bleach. If you spray and let it soak it will bleach the areas where it runs leaving splotchy coloration. Best to spray on uniformly as possible and wipe off quickly. I like full strength as I find a little dilution hugely reduces its effectiveness. I mostly use it on 80 year pianos that are pretty nasty to start out, so I can’t make them any worse. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Use a brush or paint brush to work it around hitch pins and tuning pins. It is pretty nice if you have an air compressor to blow it out of those pin fields into a waiting cloth. A canister vacuum on the blower side using the crevice tool will also work at giving you a high velocity air stream. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U2:CITY u1:st="on"><ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z">Terre Haute</ns0:City></U2:CITY> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z"><U2:STATE u1:st="on">IN</U2:STATE></ns0:State> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T11:48:00Z"><U2:POSTALCODE u1:st="on">47802           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! Go to PianoRebuilders.com</ns0:PostalCode></U2:POSTALCODE><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Delwin D Fandrich Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:20 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Cleaning the plate<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Be careful with that, “409” can be pretty rough on some finishes.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> ddf<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Delwin D Fandrich<o:p></o:p> Piano Design & Fabrication<o:p></o:p> <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">6939 Foothill Court SW</st1:Street>, <st1:City w:st="on">Olympia</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Washington</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">98512</st1:PostalCode> <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:address><o:p></o:p> Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525<o:p></o:p> <a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com">del@fandrichpiano.com </a>— <a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com">ddfandrich@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dean May Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:25 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Cleaning the plate<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> I like 409. YMMV<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City><ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2011-08-11T09:25"></ns0:City></ins></st1:place> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</st1:State><ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2011-08-11T09:25"></ns0:State></ins> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2011-08-11T09:25:00Z"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode>           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! Go to PianoRebuilders.com<ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2011-08-11T09:25"></ns0:PostalCode></ins><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div style='margin-left:.5in'> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Piano Boutique Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:15 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Cleaning the plate<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> List,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Does anyone out there have a suggestion as to what to use to clean a plate?   I have a piano in a special setting and could use some suggestions.   I have used a mild detergent in the past, but this list sure has become a wealth of information, so I am fishing.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> William<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Benjamin RPT <a href="http://www.pianoboutique.com">www.pianoboutique.com</a> piano tuner extraordinaire<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> The tuner alone, Preserves the tone.<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>