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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
<DIV>There are "two" types of "instruments" that have "keys" like an
acoustic piano. The industry is going two directions. "Keyboards"
have a touch and feel more like organs; "Digital Pianos" are going the
direction of producing the feel and 'touch' of the acoustic
piano. August 2009 and January 2010, Yamaha had the back page of the
"Journal" with an ad about their Advant Grand piano. It is
"electronic" with and acoustic action. It not only produces sound
electronically, but also produces vibrations in the cabinet making it feel like
an acoustic piano.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ken Gerler</DIV>
<DIV>(Gerler Piano & "Organ" Service)</DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net
href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">Joseph Garrett</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tnrwim@aol.com
href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 02, 2011 10:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [pianotech] !!! Re: Electronic
Keyboards - NOT "pianos"!!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Wim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">All well and good. HOWEVER, you started
out your post with the dreaded: "Electric Piano"...! You missed my point all
to gether. PLEASE?!! Quit calling them Electric/Electronic PIANOS! They are
Keyboards!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Your take on these things is that they
are the enemy. They are not! They are a viable PART of making music, (more
fun). It is sad that they don't last very long and most cannot be repaired
after only a short period of time in production. The reality is that they are
cheaply designed so that they cannot withstand the usual dings and bangs. That
is why I recommend shock proof cases for them. And a good solid stand. Believe
me, after many years of gigging with these things, they will last a long time
if properly set up and maintained. In your case, where the humidity is out of
sight most of the time. there is little that can be done. If only they would
install the original version of the Dampp-Chaser, that Mr. Foote put into his
radios, during WWII! <G></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face="MS Sans Serif">Joe</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>;<A
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href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 9/2/2011 1:25:47 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Electronic
Keyboards - NOT "pianos"!!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Electric pianos have their
place, and do serve a purpose, as Jerry and David mentioned. But here is
some information I give customers who want to buy one of them</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>The tech rep for a major piano manufacturer gave a technical once
where he said that his company invents a new electrictronic
keyboard every 10 months, and once it's made, it's obsolete after
18 months. Once a model is made, the instrument is guaranteed for only
a year, and the manufacturer is not obligated to keep spare parts around for
longer than that. In humid climates, like here in Hawaii,
the electric components rust out after three - five years. But
since the parts for these things are no longer available, the instrument
become useless. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On the other hand, I can repair a hundred year old piano with past I
have in my tool box. </DIV>
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<DIV>Wim Blees, RPT</DIV>
<DIV>Hawaii<BR><BR></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett@earthlink.net><BR>To:
pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 6:06
am<BR>Subject: [pianotech] Electronic Keyboards - NOT "pianos"!!<BR><BR>
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id=AOLMsgPart_0_dd79634c-38ac-4d37-9d1b-79c3bbd702f1><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>David Boyce said: "From: David Boyce <<A href="mailto:David@piano.plus.com">David@piano.plus.com</A>>
To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Is this the work of an RPT?
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Not sure whether I should have started another thread with this, as it's
going off-topic a bit. But I wanted to say, interesting anecdote Ger. I
was chatting to a client the week before last, who is a high school
music teacher, and also an HMiE (Her Majesty's inspectorate for
Education) for Music - a schools inspector for music. She was adamant
that her electronic keyboard was just "a tool", useful for doing certain
things, but that for playing pleasure, it would always be the old
Bechstein. Another client is the same; a music teaqcher and performer
with an excellent reputation (and ability to match), he has a good
quality 'digital piano' as well as a very high quality upright piano.
For playing pleasure, it's always the piano. The 'digital piano' is a
useful addition, but not a substitute.
The temptation for education departments to save money by buying
keyboards for learning on, is unfortunate. They are better than
nothing, and can be a useful music tool, with headphones etc. But just
because they have 88 black and white keys that go up and down, that
doesn't mean they're really as good as a piano!
Best regards,"
David,
The first thing we ALL need to do is...Quit calling them Pianos!!! They are
NOT! They are, at best, PSOs that kind of sound like pianos, but really
don't.<G> (If a high quality amplifier is used, the piano sound is VERY
close...AMHIK!) They almost FEEL like a piano, but really don't. (even
though some espouse that "...it has a real piano action..." Whatever) The
fact remains, that many teachers jumped on that bandwagon, many years ago.
They found that the students did not advance as rapidly when they were
practicing on Electronic/Digital KEYBOARDS! The "weighted".."..Just like a
Piano action" thangs do not promote Muscle Tone like a real PIANO does!
Thus, the STUDENT is the loser!
Having said all that, the Electronic/Digital Keyboards have a very real and
active place in the field of making music. And, they have a very real part
to play in the Teacher/Student picture. Not to mention all the neat things
they can do for active Musicians in composing and such. For the "gigging"
musician, they're the best thing since peanut butter....DAMHIK!
So, they are here to stay. Just get on the band wagon and let's STOP
calling them Pianos! K?!!
Regards to all,
Joe
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I
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