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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>Out of curiosity&#8212;has anyone tried the database that comes as part of OpenOffice. I&#8217;ve used the word processer some&#8212;it&#8217;s a lot like the earlier version of M$ Word except that it&#8217;s free&#8212;but never the database.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>ddf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Piano Design &amp; Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Phone&nbsp; 360.515.0119 &#8212; Cell&nbsp; 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><span style='color:blue'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>&#8212; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><span style='color:blue'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerald Groot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sure, I will work on that tomorrow or over the weekend when I have a bit more time to see if I can upload a copy of what my database looks like so you all can actually read it without having to acquire FileMakerPro.&nbsp; FileMaker is available in as a free trial version too.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Caught<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Jer,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have been running my business database on an old program called Microsoft Works 4.5 for Windows 95 and have recently purchased Filemaker Pro Advance version 10. Is it possible that you could show me you layout and how you use your data base ? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A few years ago someone put on a program&nbsp; on Microsoft access which was good, still have a copy of it but I think that the Filemaker &nbsp;program could be better.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tony Caught<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:acaught@internode.on.net">acaught@internode.on.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>0427 850 737<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerald Groot<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 September 2011 9:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I understand your frustration Greg.&nbsp; We could have that with any company though.&nbsp; From my understanding, FileMakerPro has been in business since around 1990 or so.&nbsp; That&#8217;s 21 years +.&nbsp; My current version is 7.0.&nbsp; The most recent version is 11.0, I think.&nbsp; Mine has never crashed, never given me even one problem whatsoever and at this point, I really see no reason to pay $300 or more to update unless someone out there wants to gift me with it&#8230;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp; I&#8217;ve had mine since 2004 with not even one teeny problem.&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In case you&#8217;re interested, here&#8217;s something I happened across just now. <a href="http://www.filemaker.com/fba/devcon-awards-2011.html">http://www.filemaker.com/fba/devcon-awards-2011.html</a>&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Newell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'>FWIW, Jer, I really liked the database that you showed me in FileMakerPro but was faced with the same dilemma that I had with PTBiz some time back. All of the sudden the programmer decided that he wasn&#8217;t interested in supporting his own effort any longer. Before that he had specifically asked users for input on what we thought that the program should include and the reply I receive back from a laundry list of items it took some time to investigate was &#8220;what&#8217;s it worth to you?&#8221; Now I thought that he was looking to improve things with input not bucking for more dollars. He then added a dongle type thing which simply made the program a P.I.T.A. at which point I dropped it and moved to Quickbooks and a paper calendar. Bummer. Someday. Maybe. But it will have to be from a company that will be around for a while before I throw my hat in again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerald Groot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I like Filemaker Pro.&nbsp; Use it for both my main customer data base, as a billing program and for letter writing.&nbsp; But, I use MS Outlook for scheduling. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Newell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Matthew Todd'; pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Todd,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You are not alone!!!! I&#8217;ve been searching for this for decades. I have a guy working on it right now. He is interested in feedback from people who want what I do. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Greg Newell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Todd<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Computer Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I currently use Time &amp; Chaos for my clientele database/calendar, and sort of use Quickbooks for my financials.&nbsp; Do you guys know of/use a software that has the best of both.&nbsp; I hate switching back and forth between two programs.&nbsp; I would rather find something that can do both.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><b><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>TODD PIANO WORKS</span></u></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Matthew Todd, Piano Technician</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> <br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>(979) 248-9578</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://www.toddpianoworks.com/" target="_blank">http://www.toddpianoworks.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>