<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I've had several instances where grand lids were not attached and no one bothered to tell me. Now I wiggle it a bit from side to side as I lift it a couple of inches, before lifting it up all the way. I keep some hinge pins in my tool bag. Sometimes they have to be bent a bit for a tighter fit. In the absence of a proper hinge pin, the customer may have a nail that will work. However, as I think about it, a visual check beforehand would be better, right? Wally A FINE TUNE - Piano Tuning & Repairs Wallace T. Scherer, piano technician, music educator 5020 Canal Drive, Lake Worth, Florida, 33463-8014 Telephone: 561-432-4121 Web page: http://aftune.angelfire.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-FINE-TUNE-PIANO-TUNING-REPAIRS/129845010366185 ------------------------------------------------ FREE TICKETS: http://aftune.angelfire.com/freetics.html --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3@comcast.net> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> From: Gerald Groot <tunerboy3@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Fallen Piano To: pianotech@ptg.org Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 1:08 PM <div id="yiv45285912"><style></style><div class="yiv45285912WordSection1">Scary stuff.  I nearly had an accident with a Yamaha C-7 lid.  Yes, I forgot to check the hinge pins….  When I lifted it up, it was nice and tight feeling at first but, this time I wiggled it side to side just to check it and sure enough, the thing took off toward the floor like a boulder because the back hinge was missing the pin!  Luckily for me, I was in a position and am still strong, that I grabbed it quickly, pulled it back up, held it in place and then let it back down again with no damage whatsoever to anything at all.  Phew!  I went to the car, found a pin that fit, cussing under my breath at the SOB that took it out in the first place and then I fixed it.   Jer  <div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Delwin D Fandrich Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:03 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Fallen Piano</div></div>  Haven’t you ever been told you’re not supposed to tilt pianos on their lyres?  This very nearly happened to me one time. The customer had been complaining about her piano not being stable following their recent move. When I arrived to tune it she asked if I would help her husband turn it a bit and when we did we discovered the two machine screws that should have been holding the bass leg solid had not been installed. The leg was positioned by two dowels and that was all that was holding it in place. Apparently the movers were in a hurry….  ddf  Delwin D FandrichPiano Design & Fabrication6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USAPhone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=del@fandrichpiano.com">del@fandrichpiano.com </a>— <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=ddfandrich@gmail.com">ddfandrich@gmail.com</a>  From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Noah Frere Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:15 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Fallen Piano  Yes, this happened... In slow motion the piano toppled like the tree that it once was, and I have a vague mempry of "No no no no no..." coming from me... It all turned out well though. The corner was barely scuffed! Beats me how there were NO SCREWS in the leg. Brother. Oh - plus there is wax in the action... Fun appointment! </div></div></blockquote></td></tr></table>