<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">For a quick temporary fix just pull the wire handle out of your extra mute.<br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 20px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(34, 58, 168); "><span style="font: normal normal normal 20px/normal 'Corsiva Hebrew'; "><b>   </b></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Tom Gorley</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Kokonor; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#910f08">Registered Piano Technician     </font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(62, 0, 147); "><span><b>      </b></span></div></span></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(62, 0, 147); "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><br></span></div></span></div></div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Ken & Pat Gerler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19120"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div>In the "absence" of a top hinge pin, I will use a scrap of a wound universal bass replacement string, cutting a piece about an inch longer than the hinge and then bend both ends to the inside of the piano.  I have never had a hinge pin back out again from vibration again!</div> <div> </div> <div>Ken Gerler</div> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="afinetune@yahoo.com" href="mailto:afinetune@yahoo.com">Wally Scherer</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:36 AM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Falling piano lid (was fallen piano)</div> <div><br></div> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top">I've had several instances where grand lids were not attached and no one bothered to tell me. Now I wiggle it a bit from side to side as I lift it a couple of inches, before lifting it up all the way. I keep some hinge pins in my tool bag. Sometimes they have to be bent a bit for a tighter fit. In the absence of a proper hinge pin, the customer may have a nail that will work.<br><br>However, as I think about it, a visual check beforehand would be better, right?<br><br>Wally<br><br>A FINE TUNE - Piano Tuning & Repairs<br>Wallace T. Scherer, piano technician, music educator<br>5020 Canal Drive, Lake Worth, Florida, 33463-8014<br>Telephone: 561-432-4121<br>Web page: <a href="http://aftune.angelfire.com">http://aftune.angelfire.com</a><br>Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-FINE-TUNE-PIANO-TUNING-REPAIRS/129845010366185">http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-FINE-TUNE-PIANO-TUNING-REPAIRS/129845010366185</a><br>------------------------------------------------<br>FREE TICKETS: <a href="http://aftune.angelfire.com/freetics.html">http://aftune.angelfire.com/freetics.html</a><br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 9/24/11, Gerald Groot <i><<a href="mailto:tunerboy3@comcast.net">tunerboy3@comcast.net</a>></i></b> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Gerald Groot <<a href="mailto:tunerboy3@comcast.net">tunerboy3@comcast.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Fallen Piano<br>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 1:08 PM<br><br> <div id="yiv45285912"> <style>UNKNOWN { FONT-FAMILY: "Cambria Math"; panose-1: 2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4 } UNKNOWN { FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; panose-1: 2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4 } UNKNOWN { FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; panose-1: 2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4 } UNKNOWN { FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; panose-1: 3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4 } #yiv45285912 #yiv45285912 P.yiv45285912MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } #yiv45285912 LI.yiv45285912MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } #yiv45285912 DIV.yiv45285912MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } #yiv45285912 A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } #yiv45285912 SPAN.yiv45285912MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } #yiv45285912 A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } #yiv45285912 SPAN.yiv45285912MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } #yiv45285912 SPAN.yiv45285912EmailStyle17 { FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: navy; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none } #yiv45285912 SPAN.yiv45285912EmailStyle18 { FONT-FAMILY: "sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d } #yiv45285912 .yiv45285912MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt } UNKNOWN { MARGIN: 1in } #yiv45285912 DIV.yiv45285912WordSection1 { } </style> <div class="yiv45285912WordSection1"><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Scary stuff.  I nearly had an accident with a Yamaha C-7 lid.  Yes, I forgot to check the hinge pins….  When I lifted it up, it was nice and tight feeling at first but, this time I wiggled it side to side just to check it and sure enough, the thing took off toward the floor like a boulder because the back hinge was missing the pin!  Luckily for me, I was in a position and am still strong, that I grabbed it quickly, pulled it back up, held it in place and then let it back down again with no damage whatsoever to anything at all.  Phew!  I went to the car, found a pin that fit, cussing under my breath at the SOB that took it out in the first place and then I fixed it.  </span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jer</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Delwin D Fandrich<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Fallen Piano</span></p></div></div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Haven’t you ever been told you’re not supposed to tilt pianos on their lyres?</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This very nearly happened to me one time. The customer had been complaining about her piano not being stable following their recent move. When I arrived to tune it she asked if I would help her husband turn it a bit and when we did we discovered the two machine screws that should have been holding the bass leg solid had not been installed. The leg was positioned by two dowels and that was all that was holding it in place. Apparently the movers were in a hurry….</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ddf</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></span></p><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></span></p><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span></p><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></span></p><p class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #632423; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a href="x-msg://73/mc/compose?to=del@fandrichpiano.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com">del@fandrichpiano.com </a>— <a href="x-msg://73/mc/compose?to=ddfandrich@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com">ddfandrich@gmail.com</a></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv45285912MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noah Frere<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Fallen Piano</span></p><div style="margin-left: 0.5in; "> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv45285912MsoNormal">Yes, this happened...<br>In slow motion the piano toppled like the tree that it once was, and I have a vague mempry of "No no no no no..." coming from me...<br>It all turned out well though. The corner was barely scuffed! <br>Beats me how there were NO SCREWS in the leg. Brother. <br>Oh - plus there is wax in the action...<br>Fun appointment! </p></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br></body></html>