<html> <body> OK. So, first, like, stop trying to provoke Duaine.  There may have been or yet be times when such a response seemed / will seem justified, but as you migrate to the newer list, you'll likely find less tolerance for the energizing smack-downs we learned to love and expect when entering this fading venue.  The extended Code of Conduct for e-lists seems quite specific about things like that. Second, he was absolutely correct to be baffled.  The link that John Parham posted  as:  <a href="http://www.my.ptg.org/" eudora="autourl">www.my.ptg.org </a>actually went here: <a href="http://www.ptg.org/Scripts/4Disapi.dll/4DCGI/cms/review.html?Action=CMS_Document&DocID=19&MenuKey=Menu27" eudora="autourl"> http://www.ptg.org/Scripts/4Disapi.dll/4DCGI/cms/review.html?Action=CMS_Document&DocID=19&MenuKey=Menu27 </a>as do the search results for ptg.org or 'pianopage'.    From that home page, you have to click on my.ptg.org, under Quick LInks.  Here is the Log in page where members and non-members can set up accounts: <a href="http://my.ptg.org/login/?ReturnURL=http%3a%2f%2fmy.ptg.org%2fmyprofile%2fprofile%2f" eudora="autourl"> http://my.ptg.org/login/?ReturnURL=http%3a%2f%2fmy.ptg.org%2fmyprofile%2fprofile%2f </a>Here are the instructions for nonmembers: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">4. How do I create an account if I'm a nonmember?           Follow the directions in the Getting Started area on the left side of the main page of my.ptg.org. Begin with "set up a new user profile” in step #1. This takes you to a page on the PTG web site where you can create a profile. After you have completed the form, hit submit and you will see a welcome page with a link that says “Please click here to join the PTG community.” Click on that link and it will take you back to the my.ptg.org site to continue setting up your profile. If you click on “Edit Contact Information” next to your picture, you can view and/or change your login and password information by choosing “Change Password” from the dropdown menu at the top of the page. Be sure to follow #3 of "Getting Started" to set up your "notification settings."  You won’t get an email notification that there have been new messages until you select "Real Time" to get each message as it is sent, "Daily Digest" to get one post per day of all the discussions, or "PDA" to get a text-only message suitable for smart phones. Discussions are searchable as is the whole <a href="http://my.ptg.org/Home/home/faqhelp_information/../../"> my.ptg.org</a> site.</blockquote> There's a learning curve, and some people are still unhappy, or at least uneasy with the new format, but, given the option, or lack thereof, it's worth getting one's toes in.  The Home Office has been helpful in answering questions. Good luck. David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY At 08:38 PM 10/19/2011, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Jim ,  Good one. <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:jim@moypiano.com">Jim Moy</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:34 PM <dd>Subject: Re: [pianotech] New List <dd>On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Duaine Hechler <<a href="mailto:dahechler@att.net">dahechler@att.net</a>> wrote: <dl> <dd>OK ...... where is Ā  "Getting Started" ????? </dl> <dd>Ā <a href="http://my.ptg.org">http://my.ptg.org</a> <dd><img src="cid:.0" width=600 height=520 alt="getting_started.png"> <dd>:-) </dl> </blockquote></body> </html>