Well, I know most of them probably don't read it here -- that's the point. :) The officers do tend to read PTG-L, though.<div><br></div><div>It has helped me to realize that Board members are doing the same hard work I'm doing, plus attending to PTG stuff on top of that. I no longer expect quick changes. But I do think they listen. They are, after all, regular guys like us.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Maybe I'm deluded....</div><div><br></div><div>JF<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Encore Pianos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:encorepianos@metrocast.net">encorepianos@metrocast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Ah, such an optimist, to think they actually read it there. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">They have been talking about moving the New Hampshire Primary back into December. Is it too early to start looking for better candidates for PTG offices?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Will<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Andersen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 24, 2011 11:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] New List<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Got it...thank you....agree with you....<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">DA<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:35 AM, John Formsma wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">David and other PTG members,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I just began a discussion on PTG-L list about the <a href="http://my.ptg.org/" target="_blank">my.ptg.org</a> forum. I know talking about it here is wonderfully cathartic, but on PTG-L we can actually communicate with those who have the power to change this stuff.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm all for ditching the stupid Higher Logic crap, but if it happens, it's probably not gonna happen by talking about it on this list. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">See you on PTG-L....<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
JF<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, David Andersen <<a href="mailto:david@davidandersenpianos.com" target="_blank">david@davidandersenpianos.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yeah. Fascinating. Our organization, our dues, our passion, our devotion to this community, yet no vote, no voice, no communication. The men on the Board and on the Committee responsible for this change looked me in the eye at the Convention in KC and said that if this provider didn't get it together, they had NO PROBLEM in pulling the plug, and soon; that's close to a direct quote. It's 3 months later; what's gotten better? My friends, it's a trust issue between leadership and the membership. If someone tells me something face-to-face, and then there is no follow-up, no reports, no follow-through, trust goes down. It's that simple.<br>
<br>DA<br><br><br><br>On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Terry Beckingham wrote:<br><br>> Isn't progress just wonderful. Two steps forward. Three steps back. With this old list, I find that our posts appear sometimes within a minute or two. Now with the new list, it can take up to a day. If we had a vote on it, I am sure the new list would disappear and the old list would stay. Sigh!<br>
><br>> Terry Beckingham<br>><br>> At 06:31 AM 10/24/2011 -0500, you wrote:<br>>> I posted to the new list a few days or a week ago and it took a good long while to show up.... like the next afternoon, I think it was. I'd originated the post from email (as opposed to going to <<a href="http://my.ptg.org/" target="_blank">http://my.ptg.org</a>><a href="http://my.ptg.org/" target="_blank">my.ptg.org</a>, etc., etc.), not that that's any excuse for it to be delayed like that. I've accidentally tried to post from the wrong originating email address and it manages to tell me so in fairly short order... five or ten minutes... so I'm thinking maybe there's something "up" (or actually, something "down") at the vendors... could it be? The shock! The horror!<br>
>><br>>> Paul Bruesch<br>>> Stillwater, MN<br>>><br>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Ron Nossaman <<mailto:<a href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net" target="_blank">rnossaman@cox.net</a>><a href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net" target="_blank">rnossaman@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> Well, it appears I've reached non-status on the new list, though I haven't received any sort of notification of boycott (is that an oxymoron??). I sent two posts today, one over 9 hours ago, the other just one hour ago, with neither showing up.<br>
>><br>>> ?????<br>>> Ron N<br>>><br>><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><font color="#888888"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">
-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">John Formsma, RPT<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Blue Mountain, MS<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></font></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>John Formsma, RPT<br></div><div>Blue Mountain, MS</div><br>
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