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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Piano World has what they call a “naughty chair.” If someone “crosses the line” according to the rules of PW, say, they are swearing, harassing people, things of that nature just as an example, then they ban them for a certain period of time by not allowing them access to the PW site. They have a way of doing that. If that person does it again, they ban them for a month or so. If it continues, it will turn into a permanent ban. Not sure how they do it but, I’ve seen it done several different times since I’ve been a member in there. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Encore Pianos<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] New List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There are a number of non-members who frequent the Pianotech List and conduct themselves with decorum. Should they be punished for the sins of one?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>We occasionally have PTG members who behave badly towards one another on this forum. Does that mean that no members should be allowed to access the Forum?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Will Truitt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul T Williams<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] New List<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Terry Beckingham <<a href="mailto:t46xd8jb@xplornet.com">t46xd8jb@xplornet.com</a>></span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>10/25/2011 01:00 PM</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: [pianotech] New List</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>" maybe he will go away" </span></tt><br><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> My Chiropractor has a sign in his office that says< "the 5 most dangerous words to say are, "Maybe it will go away" Perhaps the lists, however put together should limit to members only?? Just a thought.... My back aches from this whole thing!!</span></tt> <br><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Paul</span></tt> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>Terry Beckingham RPT</tt><br><br><tt>At 11:52 AM 10/25/2011 -0500, you wrote:</tt><br><tt>>I, for one, agree wholeheartedly with what you've said, Mark.</tt><br><tt>>Paul Bruesch</tt><br><tt>>Stillwater, MN</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>>On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mark Schecter </tt><br><tt>><<</tt></span><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com"><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com</span></tt></a><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com">mark@schecterpiano.com</a>> wrote:</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>>I don't hear any of them complaining about not having a voice, as you did </tt><br><tt>>earlier in this thread. If you want a voice, join. If you don't want to </tt><br><tt>>join, don't expect to have a say in decisions. And remember, this is not a </tt><br><tt>>public forum, it is privately hosted by an organization that people PAY to </tt><br><tt>>belong to, and work to support. Even the harshest critics of this or that </tt><br><tt>>problem CONTRIBUTE time and effort to this organization, and many </tt><br><tt>>person-years have gone into evolving it to its present state. So your </tt><br><tt>>sneering dismissal of its membership categories, or its software issues, </tt><br><tt>>or frankly anything, are NOT appreciated and not welcome. In my view, you </tt><br><tt>>simply have no right to complain.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>>Please try to make positive contributions and leave the gadfly attitude </tt><br><tt>>behind.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>>I speak for myself, but I know there are plenty of others who agree.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>>-- Mark Schecter</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>