<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>We're talking about a tool for unsubscribing bad actors only, so that all others, members and non-members alike, can continue to participate. No worries.<br><br>-- Mark Schecter<div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:36 PM, John Ross <<a href="mailto:jrpiano@eastlink.ca">jrpiano@eastlink.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I would hate it if I were unsubscribed.<div>Who started this rumour anyway?<br><div>I have spent many $ over the years, being a member and attending, must be nearly 20 conventions.</div><div>When I turned 70 I let my membership lapse.</div><div>I find the list a great source of information, and have contributed when I could.</div><div>John Ross</div><div>Windsor, Nova Scotia.<br><div><div>On 25-10-2011, at 5:12 PM, Mark Schecter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi, Terry.</div><div><br></div><div>I wouldn't want to close the list to all non-members just because of one person. Instead, we should have the right (and maybe this is already in place) to warn somebody, then if they persist, summarily unsubscribe them. That way, benefits are available for all who care to avail themselves, except those who can't or won't be civil. I can hear the storm of "Buts" gathering already, and yes the devil is in the details, but I can't accept that we should therefore be consigned to accepting just anything anybody feels like throwing, with no recourse. This our list (PTG's), and ultimately we ought to have the power to filter out people who stubbornly adhere to a pattern of behavior that the powers that be find objectionable, or destructive, or otherwise unacceptable. Do we have that power or not? </div><div><br>-- Mark Schecter<div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Paul T Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu"><a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <br> <br> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">From:</font> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Terry Beckingham <<a href="mailto:t46xd8jb@xplornet.com"><a href="mailto:t46xd8jb@xplornet.com">t46xd8jb@xplornet.com</a></a>></font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To:</font> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></a></font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date:</font> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">10/25/2011 01:00 PM</font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject:</font> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [pianotech] New List</font></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <hr noshade=""> <br> <br><tt><font size="2">" maybe he will go away" </font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size="2"> My Chiropractor has a sign in his office that says< "the 5 most dangerous words to say are, "Maybe it will go away" Perhaps the lists, however put together should limit to members only??  Just a thought....  My back aches from this whole thing!!</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size="2">Paul</font></tt> <br><tt><font size="2"><br> <br> Terry Beckingham RPT<br> <br> At 11:52 AM 10/25/2011 -0500, you wrote:<br> >I, for one, agree wholeheartedly with what you've said, Mark.<br> >Paul Bruesch<br> >Stillwater, MN<br> ><br> >On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mark Schecter <br> ><<</font></tt><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com"><tt><font size="2">mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com"><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com">mark@schecterpiano.com</a></a>> wrote:<br> >I don't hear any of them complaining about not having a voice, as you did <br> >earlier in this thread. If you want a voice, join. If you don't want to <br> >join, don't expect to have a say in decisions. And remember, this is not a <br> >public forum, it is privately hosted by an organization that people PAY to <br> >belong to, and work to support. Even the harshest critics of this or that <br> >problem CONTRIBUTE time and effort to this organization, and many <br> >person-years have gone into evolving it to its present state. So your <br> >sneering dismissal of its membership categories, or its software issues, <br> >or frankly anything, are NOT appreciated and not welcome. In my view, you <br> >simply have no right to complain.<br> ><br> >Please try to make positive contributions and leave the gadfly attitude <br> >behind.<br> ><br> >I speak for myself, but I know there are plenty of others who agree.<br> ><br> >-- Mark Schecter<br> ><br> <br> </font></tt> <br> <br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>