<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>No beef, Paul.  J<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Respectfully disagreeing.  As you have already observed, the devil is in the details.  <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Will<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:24 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] New List<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Not at all, Will, I'm trying to find a way to get rid of rif-raff who pollute the system.  I don't know how to do it. DO YOU?? It's not just this instance, but there have been a few in the last few years, non-paying members who continue to diminish this forum.  Sure, there are plenty of whining, paying members who poo all over everything, but I guess there is nothing we can do about them...but at least they're paying members. I probably fit this catagory once in awhile, so if I have, I apologize to all. I would love to go back to piano related topics. My delete button is getting tired. In my belief; If you have a beef...take it off-line and have a chat with them on line or a phone call. Any beefs with me?;   you can call; 402/472-2568 or e-mail me at <a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unl.edu">pwilliams4@unl.edu</a>,  and I'll be happy to discuss anything with anyone. I would just really like this dribble to stop; my back still needs to see my chiropractor!  Too many piano and harpsichord movings this semester! Flame suit on. Bring it on! Paul <o:p></o:p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>From: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>"Encore Pianos" <<a href="mailto:encorepianos@metrocast.net">encorepianos@metrocast.net</a>> <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>To: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Date: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>10/25/2011 02:49 PM <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Subject: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Re: [pianotech] New List<o:p></o:p></td></tr></table><o:p> </o:p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div> There are  a number of non-members who frequent the Pianotech List and conduct themselves with decorum.  Should they be punished for the sins of one?   We occasionally have PTG members who behave badly towards one another on this forum.  Does that mean that no members should be allowed to access the Forum?   Will Truitt   From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:04 PM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] New List     <o:p></o:p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width="16%" valign=top style='width:16.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>From: <o:p></o:p></td><td width="83%" valign=top style='width:83.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Terry Beckingham <<a href="mailto:t46xd8jb@xplornet.com">t46xd8jb@xplornet.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>To: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Date: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>10/25/2011 01:00 PM <o:p></o:p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Subject: <o:p></o:p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>Re: [pianotech] New List<o:p></o:p></td></tr></table>   <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div> " maybe he will go away" My Chiropractor has a sign in his office that says< "the 5 most dangerous words to say are, "Maybe it will go away" Perhaps the lists, however put together should limit to members only??  Just a thought....  My back aches from this whole thing!! Paul Terry Beckingham RPT At 11:52 AM 10/25/2011 -0500, you wrote: >I, for one, agree wholeheartedly with what you've said, Mark. >Paul Bruesch >Stillwater, MN > >On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mark Schecter ><<<a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com">mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com</a>><a href="mailto:mark@schecterpiano.com">mark@schecterpiano.com</a>> wrote: >I don't hear any of them complaining about not having a voice, as you did >earlier in this thread. If you want a voice, join. If you don't want to >join, don't expect to have a say in decisions. And remember, this is not a >public forum, it is privately hosted by an organization that people PAY to >belong to, and work to support. Even the harshest critics of this or that >problem CONTRIBUTE time and effort to this organization, and many >person-years have gone into evolving it to its present state. So your >sneering dismissal of its membership categories, or its software issues, >or frankly anything, are NOT appreciated and not welcome. In my view, you >simply have no right to complain. > >Please try to make positive contributions and leave the gadfly attitude >behind. > >I speak for myself, but I know there are plenty of others who agree. > >-- Mark Schecter > <o:p></o:p></div></body></html>