<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc="http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" xmlns:D="DAV:" xmlns:Repl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda="http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp="http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl="http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService" xmlns:Z="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st="" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style><![if mso 9]><style>p.MsoNormal {margin-left:7.5pt;} </style><![endif]></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:7.5pt'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If I’m not mistaken you’ve responded on the old list serve.  So what is the basic criteria for what qualifies and what doesn’t?  Are there guidelines?  Did our chapter know about this (maybe someone in the chapter can respond)?  And to Ron’s point, if we have dues paying members who are associate members who also make their living as piano technicians how equitable is a campaign funded by the PTG to discourage the public from using associate members to service their pianos, if that’s what the campaign amounted to?  If that was the case, why did that campaign qualify for a grant?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Coleman<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] PTG Advertising - was new/old list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><div id="INCREDI_TEXT_AREA"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Thanks , David.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>It's not that this not for non-members, it just isn't a piano issue.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Thanks also to William and Joe for your posts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>PTG has a $20,000 fund set aside for the Chapter Grant program.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>It is an effort to encourage Chapters to develop interesting/different ways to promote PTG and the RPT brand.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Applications can be found in the Chapter Resource area of <a href="http://www.ptg.org">www.ptg.org</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Basically, the application is sent to the Executive Committee. It is then checked to see if the plan fits the criteria,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>     part of which includes some financial commitment on the part of the Chapter.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Since the program started we have only received a few applications per year.  Some were rejected and some were given the OK. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Each rejection was responded to, either by email or direct phone conversation with the contact person,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>     as to how  the idea might be changed to qualify.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>I'm sure the beginning of this thread referred to the combined chapter project in the Chicago area which was a very impressive and bold effort.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Another aspect of the Chapter Grand project is the chapters involved have to provide an analysis of the end result at the end of the project. This has yet to be determined in the case of the Chicago project.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Thanks for listening,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Jim Coleman, Jr.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>PS I don't see any ads at the bottom of this page but if it shows up......I'm sure someone will let me know.  <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=IncrediOriginalFontSize><div id=IncrediOriginalMessage><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-------Original Message-------</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=receivestrings><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Date:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 10/26/2011 6:57:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [pianotech] PTG Advertising - was new/old list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, I’ll take my answer off the air.  Consider it posted to PTG-L</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Monroe<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> joegarrett@earthlink.net; pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] PTG Advertising - was new/old list</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Don't be ridiculous, Joe. It's not censorship, it's business that doesn't concern anyone outside of our membership.  PTG-L is exactly where it belongs.  People need to stop looking for reasons to be suspicious, in this case it's painfully contrived.  Love ya, Joe, but this was silly.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In particular, I believe Mr. Coleman was responding to David L's particular query, "<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'>Also, how was it that the funding of those regional ads was paid for from the national pool of funds?"</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't think it's too hard to understand that this information is of no concern nor any interest to non-members.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>William R. Monroe<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Joseph Garrett <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I would be glad to respond to this if you re-post it to ptg-l<br><br>Jim Coleman, Jr<br><br>Since when is Advertising and comments on the olde list something that<br>should be ONLY discussed on PTG-L??? Your penchant for censorship is<br>beginning to annoy me. (Not that that will shake you up or anything, but it<br>is, at least, becoming tiresome!) 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