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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greeting Ron. I guess now I know why I haven’t seen your name in awhile.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m curious about how ads are being run in the local community (of Chicago I presume), who is running them and what the content is exactly. I presume from your post that it’s a “hire only RPTs” type of ad. Also, how was it that the funding of those regional ads was paid for from the national pool of funds? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Koval<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] new/old list...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Yup, it's me.<br><br>I pulled myself out of lurking mode to respond to what I felt was an example of the reality of <br>what lies just beneath the veneer of civility - that attitude of entitlement and elitism that kept<br>me away from the PTG for years. I finally joined because of this list - back when it was hosted<br>by BYU - even before Andy Rudoff hosted. The lure of an "open source" discussion; where learning<br>and teaching was valued by many of the technicians I'd get a chance to meet.<br><br>Associate and non-member bashing really doesn't reflect well on the brand of RPT. <br><br>I read almost everything on this list, but don't respond too much anymore. It was instructive<br>to go back into the archives to find out that this list began to be hosted by the PTG in the fall<br>of 2002. Even after the move the list claimed: (from the "more info on this list")<br><br>The "pianotech" list, provided as a community service by the Piano Technicians Guild, is a forum for piano technicians. The list resides on the PTG server and is maintained by the PTG, but the PTG does not control the content in any way. <br>The "pianotech" list is an open list, allowing anyone to subscribe or submit posts. <br><br>Contrast that with the new list: (which runs too slow for me to use in a meaningful way)<br><br>"This site is provided as a service for the members of The Piano Technicians Guild."<br><br>Perhaps this could be a reason for the push to the new software? I'm troubled by this shift, perhaps as<br>much as I am troubled by my (and your) dues money now being used for radio ads in our local community<br>that are at best a conflict of interest, and at worst a departure from the truth. <br><br>From what I understand, membership in the PTG accounts for about a third of the working technicians in the states.<br>Of those members, about a half are RPTs. I've got to wonder about my commitment of time and money<br>to an organization that advertises against half of the membership...<br><br>Ron Koval<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>