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Mr. Coleman Jr.,<br><br>
When you allow that silly advertisement for putting animation in your
email, it takes 15-30 seconds for the email to open. If possible, can you
PLEASE delete it from your posts.<br>
Thank you.<br><br>
Terry Beckingham<br><br>
At 05:33 PM 10/26/2011 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I would be glad to respond to this
if you re-post it to ptg-l<br>
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Jim Coleman, Jr. <br>
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<b><i>From:</i></b> <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David
Love</a><br>
<b><i>Date:</i></b> 10/26/2011 4:19:21 PM<br>
<b><i>To:</i></b>
<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>
<b><i>Subject:</i></b> Re: [pianotech] new/old list...<br>
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Greeting Ron. I guess now I know why I haven’t seen your name in awhile.<br><br>
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I’m curious about how ads are being run in the local community (of Chicago I presume), who is running them and what the content is exactly. I presume from your post that it’s a “hire only RPTs” type of ad. Also, how was it that the funding of those regional ads was paid for from the national pool of funds? <br><br>
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David Love<br><br>
<a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" eudora="autourl">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><br><br>
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<b>From:</b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Koval<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] new/old list...<br><br>
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Yup, it's me.<br><br>
I pulled myself out of lurking mode to respond to what I felt was an example of the reality of <br>
what lies just beneath the veneer of civility - that attitude of entitlement and elitism that kept<br>
me away from the PTG for years. I finally joined because of this list - back when it was hosted<br>
by BYU - even before Andy Rudoff hosted. The lure of an "open source" discussion; where learning<br>
and teaching was valued by many of the technicians I'd get a chance to meet.<br><br>
Associate and non-member bashing really doesn't reflect well on the brand of RPT. <br><br>
I read almost everything on this list, but don't respond too much anymore. It was instructive<br>
to go back into the archives to find out that this list began to be hosted by the PTG in the fall<br>
of 2002. Even after the move the list claimed: (from the "more info on this list")<br><br>
The "pianotech" list, provided as a community service by the Piano Technicians Guild, is a forum for piano technicians. The list resides on the PTG server and is maintained by the PTG, but the PTG does not control the content in any way. <br>
The "pianotech" list is an open list, allowing anyone to subscribe or submit posts. <br><br>
Contrast that with the new list: (which runs too slow for me to use in a meaningful way)<br><br>
"This site is provided as a service for the members of The Piano Technicians Guild."<br><br>
Perhaps this could be a reason for the push to the new software? I'm troubled by this shift, perhaps as<br>
much as I am troubled by my (and your) dues money now being used for radio ads in our local community<br>
that are at best a conflict of interest, and at worst a departure from the truth. <br><br>
From what I understand, membership in the PTG accounts for about a third of the working technicians in the states.<br>
Of those members, about a half are RPTs. I've got to wonder about my commitment of time and money<br>
to an organization that advertises against half of the membership...<br><br>
Ron Koval<br><br>
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