<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT><br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3px"> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think the word is ‘precedent’ instead of ‘presidents’ but I understand your meaning.  If music teachers, especially piano teachers who give lessons in their own homes are exempt, then piano technicians should be, as well.</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tom</SPAN></FONT></div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div>We not like piano teachers. Piano teacher have students come to their home, creating a slight traffic problem. </div> <div> </div> <div>We are more like plumbers and electricians who run their business out of their home, but service clients elsewhere. And, like plumbers and electricians, we take some of our work home with us, have a shop to do repairs and a storage place for our supplies and tools. If those professions are required to get a licence, then so should we.  </div> <div> </div> <div>The other aspect of this is the liability factor. We should have some sort of business liability insurance, not only on our personal lives, but also our cars and homes. By having a business licence it give you some protection. Not much, but if someone is going to sue you, a smart lawyer will use not having a business licence, especially if you need one, against you. </div> <div> </div> <div>All in all, if a municipality requires you to have a business licence to run a business out of your home, then get one. It's part of the expense of being in business. </div> <div> </div> <div>Getting back to Ric's original problem, being told that he can't run a business out of his home, that is something that needs clarification. I can't imagine that there aren't a lot of people running some sort of business out of their home. But it is very difficult for a city to monitor that, unless the business owner volunteers the information. </div> <div> </div> <div>Wim<br> <br> </div> <div style="CLEAR: both"> <div> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Tom Rhea, Jr. <rheapiano@cox.net><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2011 8:08 am<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Business Definition<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_1_296f013c-4de0-4de5-92a7-46dfa34413dd> <STYLE>#AOLMsgPart_1_296f013c-4de0-4de5-92a7-46dfa34413dd td{color: black;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Script MT Bold"; panose-1:3 4 6 2 4 6 7 8 9 4;} #AOLMsgPart_1_296f013c-4de0-4de5-92a7-46dfa34413dd p.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_296f013c-4de0-4de5-92a7-46dfa34413dd li.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_296f013c-4de0-4de5-92a7-46dfa34413dd div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; 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COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tom</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=3 face="Script MT Bold"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Rhea Piano Service</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tom Rhea, Jr., Technician</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(757) 373-0284</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><A href="mailto:rheapiano@cox.net">rheapiano@cox.net</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><A href="http://www.rheapiano.com/" target=_blank>www.rheapiano.com</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Piano Boutique<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:05 AM<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [pianotech] Business Definition</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Also ask about how music teachers are defined.   I have found they have set a good presidents for our kind of work.</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">William</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in"> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original Message ----- </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div style="font-color: black"> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=formsma@gmail.com href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com">John Formsma</A> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:43 AM</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [pianotech] Business Definition</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Read the local statutes, or ask a lawyer from your locale. State and municipal laws will not necessarily be the same as yours. </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-- </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Formsma, RPT</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Blue Mountain</SPAN></FONT>, MS</div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM, <<A href="mailto:richarducci@comcast.net">richarducci@comcast.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">List, my municipal office in town just told me I need to get a contractors license to do business in the city.<br> They also consider me to be violating zoning laws by operating a business in a residential zone.<br> I have no shop, do not bring actions etc. in to work on, only receive mail and schedule calls at my home. No signage , no foot traffic.<br> I do maintain a business line but will be stopping that soon.<br> What actually constitutes a commercial business ?<br> <br> Rick Ucci<br> Uccipiano.com</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><br> <BR clear=all></SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> </div> </div> </font>