<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY dir=ltr> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <DIV>Paul,</DIV> <DIV>It was a Bosendorfer 9’ with ivory keys coming into the United States. The owner removed the ivory before coming across the border – what a tragedy. I learned later that the ivory could have been left intact had the proper paperwork been created. I would advise anybody faced with a similar situation, contact a customs broker who could prepare the necessary documents.</DIV> <DIV>Roger Gable</DIV> <DIV>P.S. My definition of old ivory; that which has been installed on a piano. New ivory: that which has not been previously used in any product. </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">Paul T Williams</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 18, 2011 1:05 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] nomenclature</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>I think Old Ivory is that harvested before the US ban of importing, and the New ivory is that exported from anywyhere after the US said "no".</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>I'm still unclear on old pianos with old ivory.  Why they can't get imported is really silly, but I've heard it happening. I think Roger Gable had to do a whole keyboard restoration because it had old ivory to go to Canada years and years ago.  True, Roger.?  Help out with this, please.  I think you know the best import/export rules.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Thanks,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Pau</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR> <TABLE style="COLOR: #000000" width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>From:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>"Carlos Ralon" <ceralon@comcast.net></FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>To:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif><pianotech@ptg.org></FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Date:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>11/18/2011 02:32 PM</FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Subject:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>Re: [pianotech] nomenclature</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> <HR noShade> <BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've head the term "old Ivory" and "new Ivory"  Can some one explain the difference? Taken from Dead elephants, or live animals? or what?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Carlos Ralon</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>----- Original Message ----- </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>From:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:reggaepass@aol.com"><FONT color=blue size=3><U>Alan Eder</U></FONT></A><FONT size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>To:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT color=blue size=3><U>pianotech@ptg.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 18, 2011 1:13 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] nomenclature</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>"Piano Parts and Their Functions" by Merle Mason<BR><BR>ae</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=Helvetica>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: johnparham <</FONT><A href="mailto:johnparham@piano88.com"><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Helvetica><U>johnparham@piano88.com</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Helvetica>><BR>To: joegarrett <</FONT><A href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net"><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Helvetica><U>joegarrett@earthlink.net</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Helvetica>>; pianotech <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Helvetica><U>pianotech@ptg.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Helvetica>><BR>Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 5:06 am<BR>Subject: Re: [pianotech] nomenclature<BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=1 face=Tahoma>Joe,<BR><BR>I did a search for "Mason's Book" and did not find it. If that is not<BR>the name I need to search for, what is the official title?<BR><BR>-John Parham<BR><BR>> -------- Original Message --------<BR>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] nomenclature<BR>> From: "Joseph Garrett" <</FONT><A href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net"><FONT color=blue size=1 face=Tahoma><U>joegarrett@earthlink.net</U></FONT></A><FONT size=1 face=Tahoma>><BR>> Date: Tue, November 15, 2011 9:32 pm<BR>> To: "pianotech" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT color=blue size=1 face=Tahoma><U>pianotech@ptg.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=1 face=Tahoma>><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Our nomenclature to others, outside of our small community, is like trying<BR>> to talk to a Medical Doctor. They have their nomenclature and we have ours.<BR>> Both are complicated, but with a definate purpose...to specify and<BR>> enlighten our peers. And, in my opinion, to confuse the hell out of he rest<BR>> of the world..<G><BR>> Mason's Book should be a required read for ALL aspiring techs, imho. No<BR>> Exceptions!<G> A yearly "review" should also be a requirement, just to keep<BR>> the 'flow'.<G><BR>> Best,<BR>> Joe<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<BR>> Captain of the Tool Police<BR>> Squares R I<BR><BR></FONT><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>