<html> <body> Just looking for clarification: Is this a conversation between Isaac and anyone else named Joe?  Is Goss channeling Wiencek? David 'Jo'nathan Skolnik At 12:29 AM 12/12/2011, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Isaac, Every thing was totally snug and tight, but the back of the hole had been chewed out due to having not been tight over the years. I happened to follow the movers who installed the lyre correctly but the dowel had dropped out of place on the damper tray pedal assembly giving the piano plenty of sustain >g< Of course they did not know how to address that issue or have time to make a repair on the lyre rods. Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT imatunr@srvinet.com <a href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.mothergoosetools.com</a> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Sadigursky" <irs.pianos@earthlink.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] SHort lyre sticks <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi, Joe! Did somebody cut them short? Just curious.. Did you snug the Lyre tight with a Rubber Mallet? I think,Vertical Action Supports will not work for Steinway Sticks. On a few occasions I had to make Upper Blocks a-la-Baldwin style,larger size and larger hole to accommodate Steinway square ends. i like to install THIN Balance Felt Punchings with a little bit of glue on Both ends of Lyre Sticks. Hope,I made myself clear. Good luck! Isaac Sadigursky-"Pedalsky" los Angeles Chapter -----Original Message----- <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">From: Joe Wiencek <joespiano@gmail.com> Sent: Dec 11, 2011 11:41 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] SHort lyre sticks What methods have you used for Steinway lyre sticks that are too loose to support the lyre, either from the keybed slots getting chewed up and eroded, or from lyre sticks that are just too short? Thanks for all help, Joe Wiencek</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></body> </html>