<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Daaaaaahhhhhh!<div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Al -</div><div>High Point, NC</div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Dean May wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City">  <style>  </style>  <div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I’ve found that you can make those cheap Yamaha grands finally get stable if you ruthlessly control the environment. Dampchaser with cover, and absolutely no air currents. Seal up all HVAC registers within 20 feet. Check for ceiling registers as well. And if it is a church have them close the lid completely between services. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoAutoSig"><b><font size="5" color="navy" face="Lucida Calligraphy"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:navy;font-weight: bold">Dean</span></font></b><b><font size="5" color="navy" face="CAC Leslie"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"CAC Leslie";color:navy;font-weight:bold"><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="2" color="navy" face="AGaramond"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:AGaramond;color:navy">Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="2" color="navy" face="AGaramond"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:AGaramond;color:navy"><a href="http://PianoRebuilders.com">PianoRebuilders.com</a>           (888) DEAN-MAY         </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"><font size="2" face="AGaramond"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:AGaramond"><u2:city u1:st="on"><ns0:city w:insauthor="Dean May" w:insdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean May" w:endinsdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">Terre Haute</span></font></st1:city></st1:place></ns0:city></u2:city><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"> </span></font><ns0:state w:insauthor="Dean May" w:insdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean May" w:endinsdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z"><u2:state u1:st="on"><st1:state w:st="on"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">IN</span></font></st1:state></u2:state></ns0:state></span><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"> </span></font><ns0:postalcode w:insauthor="Dean May" w:insdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean May" w:endinsdate="2011-12-23T10:14:00Z"><u2:postalcode u1:st="on"><st1:postalcode w:st="on"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">47802</span></font></st1:postalcode><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/PianoRebuilderscom/137780082943148">Go to PianoRebuilders.com</a></span></font></u2:postalcode></ns0:postalcode></font><o:p></o:p></st1:place></st1:place></p> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 23, 2011 7:18 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [pianotech] Yamaha GA1 Barely 10 years old Has Loose TuningPins- 2nd owner</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">I haven't had loose tuning pin issues on the GA1, but I can tell you it has the worst scale and tuning issues I have ever comes across.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">I tune quite a few of them, but there is one tune for a Church (I can't believe a dealer would sell this piano to a church), that gets tuned every 3 months. The tenor break is always at least ±15 cents.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">On the other hand, the Kawai GM-2 (small, inexpensive piano), is one of the most stable pianos that I tune. Go figure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Al -</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div apple-content-edited="true"> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on"><font size="3" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">High Point</span></font></st1:city><font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family: Helvetica">, <st1:state w:st="on">NC</st1:state></span></font></st1:place><font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Helvetica"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">On Dec 22, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Michael Magness wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">I was called to tune this Yamaha GA1 today the lower half of the bass section tuning pins were very loose, the upper half a little better, lower tenor barely holding, as I moved up the scale from there it got noticebly tighter. It appeared to have been CA'd but not too well or whoever did it started at the treble & ran out by the time he/she got to the bass.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">The customer bought it used from a piano "restorer" in Rockford, ILL The piano hadn't been tuned in about a year & moved about 170 miles to it's present location. The customer has a dedicated humidity system that keeps the home humidified to at LEAST 35% today it was 43%, but the piano was roughly 30 to 55c flat bass being the flattest & a few in the very high treble being less than 5c flat. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">The customer raised the question, when I told/showed him the loose tuning pins, if the "restorer" had ever tuned the piano to pitch, I replied it was a good question to which I had no answer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Advice?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Comments?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Anyone ever heard of this in a Yamaha or in this model Yamaha?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Any help appreciated, will call Yamaha after the holidays,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Mike <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br>   <br> I think we are a product of all our experiences. <br> <a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/sanfordiw283095.html" target="_blank">Sanford I. Weill</a>   <br> <br> Michael Magness<br> Magness Piano Service<br> 608-786-4404<br> <a href="http://www.ifixpianos.com/" target="_blank">www.IFixPianos.com</a><br> email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com" target="_blank">mike@ifixpianos.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>