<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Larry, those are lots of just one clicks. And how about the time it takes to load your browser, then load the PTG website, then several more one clicks to get the list and a few more one clicks start or reply to a message. <div><br></div><div>I can post or reply to the old list in one click after a couple of second to open my mail client. How long does it take you to do all that you described, from the time your computer is up and running? Give me a break, let's argue real facts with real facts. Not a bunch of hypothetical one clicks. Clicks are fast. The problem is how many does it take and how long do you need to wait after each click. Let's get real here.</div><div><br></div><div>The old list is faster, more efficient and easier to use. How could you possible argue that fact!</div><div><br></div><div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Al -</div><div>High Point, NC</div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Jan 1, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Larry Fisher RPT wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <div><font face="Times New Roman">Horace and others have expressed  .........</font></div> <div><font face="Times New Roman"></font> </div> <div><font face="Times New Roman">The PTG may have made a few improvements to the web site, but the new list is not a viable means of communication for us. We have neither the time nor inclination to go through all we need to do, just to post a problem, photo or response. </font></div> <div><font face="Times New Roman"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">I’ve certainly not had any of these problems.  I don’t understand the issues here.  I recently posted an archival quality post regarding access to the action cavity on grand pianos that have the PianoDisc record feature installed.  It took me under a half an hour and includes four images.  I haven’t posted it to this list because I don’t remember how to include images.  I could get started and figure it all out once again, but I feel once is enough.  As much as I’d enjoy making the common process of accessing a grand action something you can do with prior knowledge, I don’t feel I need to provide the information twice when the first time is totally accessible to any member of the guild.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">As for having to sign in,  ..........   one click and I’m in looking at the page with all the posts of the last day or two.  My computer signs in automatically for me.   I see the listing in my email’s index and when I open the email, I’m in the web based PTG technical discussion ready to use all the wonderful features of the system.  </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">One click and I’m ready to start typing a response to a particular thread (“discussion”).  One click and I can see what I or anyone else has posted over time.  I recently changed my past posting to make the information correct as can be.  I find the new system to be SO easy to use  ............   </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">To respond to this discussion I had to cut and past the subject into the subject line, and I had to cut and past the above included quote. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">If you like archiving your own library of posts, that’s your thing and I’m happy for you.  I like having someone else’s storage media handle all that for me automatically  ....... for the cost of my membership fee.  </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">As for having a website that is under priced, or not performing what it could if it were done by someone else, ....... s</font><font face="Arial">omeone went through a lot of effort to set up the web based medium for us.  If you think you can do a better job that EVERYONE WILL ACCEPT, submit your efforts to the suits and ties and let’s start enjoying this magnificent process of sharing knowledge freely with total harmony and fanfare.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">It sounds like there’s going to be a class on this at the upcoming conferences.  I expect the teacher will have to be clad in a full body protective suit for keep from getting injured by rotten fruit projectiles  .........  well OK, small rocks   ..............   </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Lar</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>