<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 9.00.8112.16440"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Another thing you might need to consider is the thickness of the spoon felt. If you end up having to use a flange that is longer than the original, thicker felt can take up the void and lessen the need to move the spoon to a undesirable point.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rob@mccallpiano.com href="mailto:rob@mccallpiano.com">Rob McCall</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 02, 2012 11:21 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Plastic Damper flanges</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks Del, <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>That's very helpful!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>By the way, here's a photo of one of the bass dampers.  In fact, this is the only one I could find that even had a slight remnant of the screw hole from which to measure.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The felt seems to be okay on all the dampers. I don't think this piano was used very much...</DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV apple-content-edited="true"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Optima; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">Regards,</DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">Rob McCall</DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">McCall Piano Service, LLC<BR><A href="http://www.mccallpiano.com">www.mccallpiano.com</A></DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">Murrieta, CA</DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">951-698-1875<BR></DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><IMG id=74eb71fe-d3bf-4522-b6ed-17e8fcb50bff src="cid:1420FBE644464C878817BF5699A502E3@GossPC" width=479 height=640 apple-height="yes" apple-width="yes"></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Jan 02, 2012, at 08:19 , Delwin D Fandrich wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You’ll not find any specifications for this kind of work. You do what you can with what you can find. And you’ll have a talk with your client about the economic feasibility of going ahead with the repair. The piano may not be worth the effort.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Having said that—and assuming the client wants to spend the money—the repair procedure is fairly straight forward.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If you’re lucky you might find two pieces of the same flange to measure but why bother? Your choices for replacement flanges are rather limited; buy the one with the spring length that best fits.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Remove the rest of the flanges from the damper levers. Do not install the new flanges yet.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sort the levers into piles by damper type; mono-chords to the left, bi-chords next, then tri-chords (if there are any) and, finally the pads.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Now start putting them in order using the damper type as an initial guide. Lay them out side-by-side with a board under the wood levers (so they will lie as flat as you can get them) and sort by the amount of bend in the damper wires.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The bends will be fairly progressive and obvious to the discerning eye. You probably won’t get them perfect but you should be able to get them fairly close to the right order just by looking. You want the bends to look progressive.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>n<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Once they are sorted you can install the new flanges and screw them to the rail. Before installing the action stand back and take a last look at the back of the action; you may want to swap around a few for a better side-to-side fit.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thinking about this job is more intimidating than actually doing it. Once the action is in the piano you’ll need to adjust the side-to-side damper spacing and damper lift. This may also not be as bad in the doing as it is in the thinking about. It depends on how close the replacement damper flanges are to the originals.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve probably forgotten a few details—it’s been close to thirty years since I’ve done one—but once you’re started it should go along fairly smoothly.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ddf<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Delwin D Fandrich</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Piano Design & Fabrication</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">6939 Foothill Court SW,<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">del@fandrichpiano.com<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">—<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(99,36,35); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">ddfandrich@gmail.com</SPAN></A></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>